Ep. 43 - The 1970's

This episode, we discuss the music of the 1970's! We talk about Disco, it's popularity, and it's affect on other genres, as well as the popular bands/artists of the 70's per genre.
Early on we discuss some news including the arrival of Yuengling beer in Texas, the release of a new pickle beer, and also say a few words about the late Charlie Watts, the drummer for the Rolling Stones, who recently passed away. Cheers!

Spotify playlist for Episode 43: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1YNwbIA230BS9dpphWwoGO?si=76a2f4e5a3094cd4

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Hello, everyone, welcome to rock talk happy hour. My name is Mario here with Kimberly Britt and Frank. This is a podcast about craft beer and music. So every episode we try different craft beers, we write them, we discuss them and sometimes we learn a little bit about them. All while talking music related topics. Frank was today's music related topic. 1970s right. Yeah.

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I hope so. Cuz that's what we planned for. Here. You can have jazz is some jazz or something. I got it already. It already happened, though. Too bad. Yeah. So there's a coaster. It has international jazz on it. It looks like a little cute vinyl. Yeah. And it was April 30. To add, yeah, maybe next year. Um, but yeah, so um, usually we start the show off with a couple of little segments. One is, what are we drinking or we talk about the beers that we're drinking right now to warm us up for the episode, or other

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little segment is hangover. So that's where we talk about anything that we forgot to talk about. That we forgot to talk, or you forgot, I'm gonna have to edit that out to

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where we talk about things that we forgot to mention last episode we right into the topic or something we just wanted to bring up between the episode that you know, we haven't seen each other in a week, you know, to talk about this stuff. So we'll bring it up. Right and then also to a new little segment, just using bruiser, burrs and us are we want to say it, we're just talking about music news, or because I have some music news and some beer news. So cool. So first, does anyone have any hangover? Yeah, well, I guess, for me was last episode. That's exactly those are bands with multiple

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singers over the years or over their lineup. Yeah. So my question to your

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new vocalist, is that the kiss of death or is it new life? I think it depends on the band. Mm hmm. I because when I was I was actually listening to some of these bands after we did the episode because I was working on the playlist and yeah, some of them some of them did. Some of them it didn't I know we had a discussion where

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bread was bread had brought up in excess and I had totally forgot about in excess. So and then at that time, then we started bringing up like, oh Queen with Adam Lambert and all the bands that were that stayed the same but said with the new singers. Oh, and so yeah, so one thing I did find out is that in excess, did record new albums with what's his name? For what his name was the singer that they got, remember? I don't know, fortune, obviously. JD fortune. Yeah, James. I think that was his name. So they recorded two new albums with him. So in excess continued right? It was weird. What I noticed was that with Queen, they haven't recorded anything new with Adam Lambert. They just use them basically for touring purposes. I think so like it's Queen with Adam Lambert. But it's no new material at all since he's been in the band. And I don't remember what year he joined. He joined them have it in my other notebook. But he's been with them for quite some time. But he's and I don't know if it's because maybe they don't feel like

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we're like one of those things where you're saying it might be like a kiss of death thing you know, to record something new with a new vocalist, but it also to me seems like a kind of a

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like, kinda like they don't have faith in him like to write new music, but they're like, oh, we'll use you to keep playing you know what I mean? Because we're cuz he's been with them for a long time. But then like, bands like Stone Temple Pilots, you know, they record new stuff, which the latest one because they've recorded two albums with the gut guy. And what's his name? Jeff. Good, Jeff. Good, Jeff. Good. So the first album sounds very like it's trying to imitate Scott Whalen. And then the second one after that is super boring.

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And then the excess stuff is weird, because it sounds like kind of sounds like

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an excess before. Right. So which is weird. I don't know if you've heard any of it. No, I haven't. It sounds but I think you can kind of tell or like he's was kind of drawing from, you know, from previous vocalist, but I'm sorry, Michael Hutchence audience. Yeah, so I could hear that. But anyways, I don't know. Yeah, it depends on the band to me. Yeah. I mean, obviously, there are some bands that have continued with different new singers and have gone on to domestic success. You know, think of AC DC. Yeah. Think of Iron Maiden. Yeah. You know, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath as well to Van Halen.

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Like we said last week, Sammy Hagar, like that iteration of the band was more successful financially. So I mean, yeah, I guess it works out for some but

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I don't know. I mean, for me, it's like, you can replace a drummer or you can replace a guitarist and it's fine. You know, maybe not all the time. Not all the time, but but to a point, it's like, you know that the voice is Yeah, like the feature for the band. You know.

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But once you get a new vocalist, I think it's one of those like, I don't know, is it or is it not? And, you know, again, too, and I'm gonna stick with my, with my opinion that I think it does go by the band, because there are some bands where

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it were like, the instrument guys did change. And you could tell because, like, certain guitars have same with drummers basis, they have different styles and writing, you know, writing techniques and even their the way their sound is guitar wise to like, sometimes, I mean, I have to look back into the bands or listen to the drum pad, guitarist changers, but you could definitely hear the difference sometimes. So I don't think that's always the case. But like I said, depends on the band. I don't know. Right? Right. Right.

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But yeah, to me, it's just one of those things where it's like kiss of death, or is it gonna be like a new exciting chapter for, for the band. And for some fans, you know, they'll stick with the band, no matter what, through and through, right, and then some are just gonna drop off and say, you know, so and so's on in this band anymore? I'm not interested. Yeah. So

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yeah, I just wanted to know what Joe's opinions on that well. I mean, I just think it depends on the day. Yeah.

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Okay, cool. Cool. All right. So

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our non definitive answer, I mean, it's because it does I mean, I guess maybe this is like, an actual topic we could talk about later, but I read a headline for a Guitar World article that said, You will never sound as metal as this higher run through a distortion pedal. So made me think, what is metal? What is punk? What is this? What is that? Like? What are the definitions of that? But again, that's that's too deep for us to talk.

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Yeah, Frank always comes up with his genre. Genre topics. Yeah, always throw us curveballs. Or no, no, I know what he does. He sidetracks us so hard. Yeah, I'll like I'll

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go back and edit and I'm like, crank sidetrack to super rad. I mean, you know, you could be making like a pot of beans for somebody and then you pour bourbon and it's gonna be the oil. That's still mad. Yeah, it's metals. Metal is

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Macedo.

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Whiskey and beans. That's metal right there.

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Does anyone have any other hangover? I mean, I kind of do and it kind of goes into like the brews and news stuff. So last week.

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I forgot to mention this when we were talking about stuff obviously, like we're drinking beer all the time. So like, well during the episode, so I am surprised I didn't bring it up. None of us did. But Yingling finally made it to Texas. Yeah, yeah. So like it technically happened last week it started shipping in and Kim and I actually went to a taproom and actually tried some being lean on from on draft.

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But, uh, ya know, I mean, they were mainly what East Coast? East Coast? Yeah.

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We had England before it came luckily. The Mississippi. Yeah. Supposedly. So a little history on the on on Yingling.

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The Kansas are like the oldest brewery but in the US. But I didn't know like how old they were like if that was like, true. But then again, I was like, well, right on the Can I remember talking about that?

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Little history. English is the oldest operating Brewing Company in America. It was established in 1829. Wow. So I know there's probably been

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I don't know. I mean,

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they were they first started out as Eagle breweries. I guess that's why they have the eagle

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logo on their logo. But it's family. It was it was family owned, or it still is family owned to in 2018. by volume of sales. It was the largest craft brewery in the US. It was six largest overall just breweries in general. And then they're the largest wholly American owned brewery in the US. So it's so crazy because like, I guess we don't see that but because like we were saying it was like East

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Mississippi. It's so popular in like Pennsylvania, and in Delaware that if you go to a bar that you don't even have to say like, give me a Yingling. If you want one. All you have to do is say give me a lager because that's pretty much like what everyone drinks up there. It's like Guinness in Ireland. Give me a pint. There you go. And then they'll get Yeah, so that's how apparently this is and like we've never been up there. Yeah, so I've never been I think it's funny though that like you'll talk to somebody

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That's from east of the Mississippi wherever this was, and they're like, it's, you know, it's but like people on this side, we're just like going crazy for it. And everybody was so excited that it's here that you know, without Louisiana and the funny thing is that I think when we were in Louisiana a couple years ago, I think Louisiana had just gotten Yingling, too, so it was like a slow, a slow thing but my question I don't know if y'all noticed or not, but, um, could you previously purchase Yingling online to get shipped here? I don't think so. Because we were gonna drive to Louisiana to get Yeah, to get to yours. Yeah. Yeah. And as I like to call it I'm going to call it the link because we text I can't I have trouble spelling Yingling, even though it's not that hard. But, uh, yeah, no, I mean,

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it's weird how some people do say that. But then like, when you read like how popular it is. And the East like, you don't even have to order by name, like you just say and have a lager and I give it to you. So I think so. Yeah. Some of those people that are like,

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that's cuz they're being hipsters. Yeah. Or they're just so used to it. It's like, I think that's what that is. Yeah, I think in Minnesota. I read some months back. That Lone Star just made its way to Minnesota, and it's considered a craft beer. Yeah. And it's like, it's like seven bucks for a cowboy. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah.

11:18  
Eyes Minnesota. You can get it down here. Yeah. So it's like regional I guess. Regional popularity and stuff. It's pretty crazy or regional. Real easy, right? It becomes a novelty for places like

11:29  
Texas beer, y'all.

11:33  
Texas craft beer, but as I did, it's like all over the place down here. There's nothing craft about it. So I don't know what episode but trash monster. But what I'm saying is it's not a craft beer. You know, but I think they're starting to dip into the craft beer. Yeah, but this is but this is prior to that when it was just like when it was just, it was just the regular and yeah, like every beer is starting to call themselves a craft beer. Yeah, cuz they're, you know, it's like, oh, Bud Light. It's gonna be a craft. I don't

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know, um, what was I gonna say? Yeah. So with that said, So Kim and I tried the regular Yingling and then the the flight which is a like a light, light. Light light beer. My new favorite I think I know they had for I don't know how many they have like in their

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what's it called the list of beers? Yeah, but I know for our in Texas. And on some episode as soon as we can get our hands on like some individuals, then we'll write them on the on the on the show, because I wanted to get them but they had another metal packs, and I was like, I'm not gonna buy. What is that? What's 12 times 4:40am I gonna buy? Am I gonna have 48 beers sitting around just to try for my beer ever again. Yeah.

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But, uh, so there's Hardy. So there's that. And then another one. This is I guess Texas related. Martin house just released everybody was hyped about this. A new beer in their best made pickle beer line. And it was their grape punch. Pickle beer. And so that just got released a couple days ago. sometime this week. Kim and I got to try that to the tapper and we went to Martin house was actually there. So yeah, the same thing we had to Martin house trying to get I'm trying to get like a

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sponsor, but like, send us the goods. The goods. Yeah. Because to my door. They sent us a message was sent her a message on Instagram. about like, Oh, you had a great man. She's like, yeah, we have a podcast. Yeah, yeah, shameless. Yeah.

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They're just like, Oh, cool. Like, tag us. I was like, okay, Alison. Swag.

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Yeah, no. So we were there. And we tried it.

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You had a draft. And to me, it was pretty good of all the pickle beers. We're gonna try it in a bit. I gave that a five on untapped. Yeah. Yes. It was really good. I'm not I don't like great. I really I'm not a big great fan. But this to me was like, I was telling you guys earlier like grape Kool Aid with like pickle juice in it. And I've never had like hoodrat stuff like that before. So like, I was like, yeah, yeah. Okay, so, um, I

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need to go to like,

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Oh, yeah. Because proper, like Britain hasn't had a Piccadilly

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where they called mangina or no, no, though. What are they picking? really pick it the other day. Talking about something else. I'm Britta like, I never had that before. Dammit. Go back. Go back to the episode. Anyways, so there's that. So that's those are two beer, new stands. And then also two on a little, I guess, a tangent or whatnot. I want to say rest in peace, the Charlie Watts. That's Rolling Stones. That's right. That's right on the 24th. Which is crazy because when we went to the show

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To see mega death, they were showing the video of promoting the Rolling Stones show and they were supposed to be in Austin November. And so yeah, and what what's weird is that

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I saw that he passed away and I was like, I wonder how old he was. He was 18 years old, and I told her, they were torian. And their drummer was 80 years old. I was like, holy shit. Like, that's crazy. But he's been with the Rolling Stones since 63. Like he's been right in the band. Yeah. 63 It's just fucking crazy. I read a I read a pretty crazy story about Charlie Watts that happened in the 60s. I think Mick Jagger and Keith Richards and I forget who else were hanging out at a hotel room in Europe, and they were on tour, right? And Mick Jagger was super super drunk. And

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what was it I don't know some some something about a discussion or other and he told his tour manager Get me my drummer. In Charlie Watts showed up super super pitch. It was like Don't ever call me your drummer. Oh, and apparently, you know, Charlie Watts was like the type that always stayed away from the limelight and did his own thing you know? And the rest of the Rolling Stones. You hear that all the time? Yeah.

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And I guess there's a thing I think it's called the drummer's punch. And I don't know but it's like a very fierce like a thing. And a physical punch or a drink punch or no, no, it's just more like, oh, like a more like a mega attitude. Yeah. Okay. I just like, like some Bruce Lee.

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Thinking and then I was also thinking we're like they have a dream like a drummer. Yeah.

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Basically, the the gist of it was Charlie Watts went up to Keith Richards or went up to Mick Jagger and said, Never call me your drummer. Yeah, that's and I think he like ripped his jacket from like, just grabbing him and how angry he when he did the German punch on him? I think I think, yeah. But I think more of the drummer punch was the fact that he got up his face and was angry. Yeah.

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To be heard in that scene, so maybe that was like the punch thing. That's funny, didn't you? You saw him that time. And that's gonna be the name of our beer. germer punch.

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But I mean, that was like me.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we went to some show. And I don't know if we've ever said it on this on the podcast. But yeah, so I'm helping her set up. And of course, me and her standing next to pieces, that kit. And then this guy comes out from the other band. And he's like, he's like, oh, he was like, I don't know how his drums are. And I was like, Oh, I know. They're waiting. Like,

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we're gonna be playing, you know, opening and I wouldn't put myself and he was like, you're the drummer in the band. I was like, Yeah, yeah, he's like that. Okay.

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Like, what's the

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2018? Bro? Like,

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get with the time, cuz I was sending her stuff up to on that state. Yeah, so like, Cali looked like I was the germer. But like, Damn, girl putting up your drums forever. Like, no, yeah, no, I'm the roadie.

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But, uh, yeah, no, I just wanted to say that. Cuz, I mean, I, we've always had this discussion where like, whenever, like the Beatles and Rolling Stones came up, because both those bands are gonna come up tonight. And I always pick the Rolling Stones. Like, I always liked the stones a lot. And they went through like the 70s. So, you know, I have some other music on the Spotify playlist, because you know, they are part of that. That era. But shit. They've been harder. Every era pretty much since since the 60s. Late 60s. Yeah. So I mean, what? They've been added for almost 60 years now. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm still I wonder how old the other guys are. But just gotta be close. I mean, I'm sure they're close to 80 and 180. Right. Yeah, yeah, he's, he pickled his organ.

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It still has like another 100 years left or something. So yeah. Maybe he made a deal with the devil. I think he died. We probably did a book I read.

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And, but actually, I thought I saw that Charlie Watts was gonna set out on this tour anyway, I wouldn't have been surprised. They didn't they didn't say why. I mean, I just read that he died in a hospital in London. You know, no other information is known. So I'm thinking maybe he just wasn't in great health and what's gonna sit out the door, you know, 80 years old dude. Like, how are you still? I don't understand. Like, that's crazy. Like, especially drums. I think drums is one of the more demanding instruments of all like, yeah, you know, to play live like and also to like, was crazy. I saw that he would have to set up his own stuff. Yeah, he doesn't.

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Sure true. He cited jazz as a major influence on his drumming style, and also to he is often regarded as one of the best drummers like of all time, but I was listening

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to like, and I guess as a guitarist, I usually listen to the guitars. And I listened to vocals, too, but like, I was listening to some of the Rolling Stones stuff and I was listening to the drums. And yeah, it's like kind of like he does like you can hear the little intricate like fills, he does like here and there and like, he does some stops and stuff. And I was like, yeah, that's pretty, pretty interesting. Like I was, you know, paying attention to the drums a little bit today. But now I just thought, you know, that was just wanted to, you know, mention his name today. And yeah, for sure.

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But yeah, he was man. He was born in 1941.

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Wow, that's crazy. KEITH RICHARDS I looked up his 77 Okay, I don't know about Mick Jagger cuz my phone wants

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to be around there somewhere. Yes. Yeah. Well, but and we also have considered I mean, for eight years old. I mean, look at Willie Nelson. He's like 687 and he's still performing guitars, though. All he has to do stand there. Yeah.

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Yeah, but yeah, not drumming. I mean, I see your point. But think about it, too. I mean, just being up there in age and still perform. Sure. No, definitely. Oh, dude. Guys, props. Yeah, definitely. traveling alone is gonna take a take on you. Yeah, waking up in the morning, plugging.

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My back hurts and shit. Yeah, I'm like,

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wait, all right. Yeah, no, the base for 30 minutes. You're like, oh my god. Oh my god. Sometimes Sometimes I feel it like after like an hour. I'm like, already hurting. Oh, my wrists are starting

21:34  
to upgrade for a new model. I try like get out of bed now. And like, I feel the pain in my wrist now. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, I got it. Again. And I'm what I'm only What? 3375

21:48  
but Oh, real quick before I go on to the next thing. What do you have like a favorite Rolling Stones? So I don't like the Rolling Stones. You don't like the Rolling Stones? So you say you don't like the Beatles or the Rolling Stones? Holy shit. I don't like the hair. Okay, that I agree with you. I don't like that. I think the Rolling Stones are evidence of the fact that like

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rock and roll gets you laid because those guys are hideous. Sorry.

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I mean back. Well, yeah, no.

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Yeah, well, back Yeah, I was gonna say back in the day, but still no Mick Jagger kind of still look the same. No, I can definitely appreciate the rolling songs me I'm not a fan but I could appreciate their stuff. And I think for me, some of the obvious ones are jumping jack flash, and painted black.

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I do like painted black. It's a good one. And also I I appreciate dead Z's cover of it. I got to bring up dead z. Well, yeah, I guess. I have not even heard it. Oh, yeah. I don't think I have I'll listen to it. Yeah, but you know, Rolling Stones, you know, I realized you know that they're iconic and they have their place in music history that a fan per se but I can't appreciate you know what they've done? I mean, I can acknowledge Yeah, or whatever, but I'm just not a fan. I guess I would if I had to pick a song It would be sympathy for the devil. Okay, no, that's a good one. I think to my favorite ones are probably Honky Tonk woman and beast of burden. Those are probably two of my favorite and of course painted black too. Or we as somebody for the devil has some sympathy for the devil is pretty good one to be so burden is another fun misheard lyric because it sounds like he says your pizzas burnin It is

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always on the master puppies. puppies.

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There's this man that walks like up and down one of the streets, like nearby and he has like, what are they like? They're like Pomeranian. Yeah, there

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are like seven of them. Yeah. And they like they just seem like, you know, they walk. And so like he's just like, it's old man. And he's like walking like six of them. And they're just like,

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like, we were talking about Metallica the other day and then or like, she said, like I said, Master Master puppies. And I said, Yeah, that man's the master

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the leashes and it looks like

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there's a story too with Rolling Stones. And

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Jimi Hendrix was more Keith Richards and Jimi Hendrix as well, just overall in general.

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Gee, Jimi Hendrix inspired the Rolling Stones, his music later, you know?

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But also funny, funny thing is that Keith Richards was totally cool with Jimi Hendrix dating his girlfriend.

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Like around the same time that he was dating her. Who was it? I'm not sure who. Okay, but they weren't, like I say but they're I think the story goes was they were in a hotel room and he saw them in bed together. And he's Oh, dude, you're Jimi Hendrix. You know, it's cool. And then, and then somehow the conversation got to talking about a guitar that was on the other side of the room. And Keith Richards was like, you could totally keep my guitar. What?

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I guess

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those Rolling Stones guys were kind of, I mean, it was it was freaky. It was the 60s. Yeah, well

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That too. I guess that too. But I specifically the Rolling Stones guy. Yeah.

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But yeah, anyways, so next next segment What are we doing, bro? What are you drinking? Make love ultra cool.

25:13  
Frank Are you drinking drinking a new one sober carpenter. It's a white non non non alcoholic craft brew. And it's supposed to be like a hazy, flavorful Belgian style white offers balanced aromas of orange coriander and wheat not sponsored. What uh, what do you what do you read it? actually haven't tasted it yet? Let me see.

25:39  
It's it's quite good.

25:41  
Oh, I took another sip and he smelled something and it. I don't know. After I did again. I was like, it tastes like Sorry, I'm on if you're listening. It tastes like if you take a drag unlit cigarette.

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cereal or something? It tastes like a cigarette.

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I think maybe.

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I don't know. Well, I'm not gonna read it. Frank. What do you read it? Well, this is from sober cigarette box. Yeah, like a cereal box, kind of like sober Carpenter brewing from Canada. And maybe it tastes that way. Because it's toasted wheat. It's like, Yeah, it does taste like Cheerios or Honey Nut Cheerios. Cheerios, but like, only if you lick the bottom on the box.

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So you ran out of milk and you ran out of milk and cereal? And you're just like in the box?

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I don't know. I don't think I like this one. But what do you read it? I don't I think it's good. I'm gonna give it uh

26:38  
huh. Od. That's that old labor. Od is very old. He

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was like

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he's a cartoon Brit. How am I gonna taste them?

26:52  
Like your TV?

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comic strip, I think. Yeah. I think this is one of those where I have to report back. Okay. Okay, with later rating, but the current rating would be like maybe a 3.5.

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Okay, yeah. No, no, no, they say that because it's been sitting out a little bit. So it's still cool, but it's not like cool. Yeah, yeah. So it was a little colder. I would have I could probably give it a higher rating, but at its current temperature, it's a 3.5. Well, speaking of temperature, I am drinking a mechanical unicorn hazy IPA. It's from ale Smith. So we've had Aerosmith before they actually the ones that make the sublime beer. Okay, so and that's actually I don't know, it looks like they're in partnership with Lakewood brewing, which is weird. Lakewood is the are the guys that made that.

27:47  
I want to say they know, I take that back. They make the temptress beers. Remember that that stout that I gave you last time I like a chocolate like peanut butter. Yeah. Okay, so they make those beers. Okay. So these guys are from Are they from California? No, they're Oh.

28:02  
Lakewood is from garland Texas.

28:05  
Huh? This is confusing. Okay. Anyways, says it's a has a citrus flavor with mango, pineapple and banana. Usually these don't taste very good when they're super cold. Usually the flavor starts to come out once the beer warms up. So this has been sitting for a while. And I mean, I like it.

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Some of my favorite IPA, but I would give it a

28:29  
maybe like a three.

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I don't know what I mean. I don't know what Britton Kim give it

28:36  
barely like Oh, nevermind there's nothing

28:45  
2.5 Yeah, I'm not a super fan of many IPAs. It takes a special Yeah. IPA for me to dig on it. And this is not that one. No, I agree. I agree with you this one. And like I said once they get warmer usually but this has been sitting here for too long, actually. And then you don't have anything right. So before we go into the topic, do you want to try the great beer? Sure. Kim, can you get one more new glass and the great beer so actually put the beers in order on top. So we have an order for our time today, but we're gonna try the Martin has great beer together. Kevin I tried it yesterday. Okay, I liked it a lot. We'll see what Britt gives it let's see Britt likes it because I know our tastes are all different Don't worry we're gonna give you Okay, so it's like cleaning it out

29:30  
Wow, we're not savages. We have we have more we're purist we have to use clean glass Yeah, we're gonna have a sorbet palate cleanser in between. Yeah, that we can't have none of this.

29:45  
Yes, that's right.

29:47  
So me right off the bat without tasting it again. I had to get another one because I gave it a five. So I don't remember if Kim gave it anything but I'll let you and Brett rate it today. The camera

30:00  
That's pretty cool. It smells good to me. It's purple. Yeah. There you go. Frank. You wanted to see the color there. Oh, wow, it looks like Kool Aid. That's cool. Yeah. It's really cool. Yeah, the cannon is pretty cool too. I am scared. Can I sniff it? Yeah, did that last one. sniff it.

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Oh, Jesus. Oh,

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I didn't taste it. I just smelled it. Oh, actually, you know why it smells like that? Because it's from the can we smelled it when it was on tap? Ice draft. I smell a spice in it in there. I think that's probably the pickle. Okay, don't smell it. Yeah, swish it around a little bit. Okay. Yeah, it smells like a little like a little spice or something. Actually, we should taste it first. I want to see what the difference is because we didn't taste it from McCann.

30:50  
I feel like it can has a little more pickle taste.

30:54  
Draft it has more great taste. But with that said

31:00  
it's weird. Because the Can I probably give it like a four. Yeah. Just so weird. It was so much better on draft. Okay, yeah. Okay, there's some beers or like, I gave her a lot too because I never know like, I know cuz if I like it, I want more. I understand. It's tough. tough call. Yeah, give it a four from the Can I don't God I don't

31:21  
stop smelling it gave it again. This one for tap five. Okay, so I mean, you're the same.

31:29  
This is the first time I've ever been like, grossed out No. Just terrified. Oh, try a beer that we've had. And do you like grape? Yeah, I don't mind grape

31:43  
pickles, but I've just never had them together your beer for another Sauerbrey? Yeah, it's another shout out it's Martin house. Your voice

31:55  
Okay, it's it tastes better than it smells. Yes, it does. Definitely.

32:01  
Yeah, cuz it does take it does smell more pickle even the smell. It smells weird. Yes, the smell vinegary. But the taste is a taste is better than the smell. What do you read it to? I can't do it. I can't do well, no, that's fine. That's fine. We're all going to have different different

32:19  
palates. If you want more, you can get some

32:23  
of it right here. So now that we tried to add Don't worry, we'll have a smoothie style elite. Because I know y'all like those. Um, Frank, you want to start to talk?

32:33  
Whoa, that's, it's cool. It's cool.

32:37  
Yeah, I guess. Sorry, the topic. So since we're talking about the 1970s 80s had a variety of I guess, genres that came and went and some stayed.

32:47  
And they were birthed in the 70s. My genre unfortunately, came and went but its influences still heard and seen me talking about disco. And disco. I grew up on disco, because my mom listened to it, you know, whatever parents, whatever music our parents listened to. That's what we grew up on. Right. So disco was my mom staying and I think she gets that from her older siblings because they were all

33:14  
in the disco and and and it's cool because you know, looking back at their family pictures and stuff and you see my aunts and uncles and especially my uncles with the long hair and now they're like receding hairlines long hair, and everyone's got the bell bottoms and the colorful outfits and the platform shoes and

33:32  
butterfly collars. Yeah, but I'm very fond to disco. I like it.

33:37  
And so yeah, so pretty much throughout the 70s. That was like its prominent

33:43  
time. And then of course the 80s happen and it just pretty much died off.

33:48  
But actually, you know, disco has a little bit of a dark beginning to it.

33:55  
And is traced back to the Nazis actually, what the Yeah, so you're shaking your head. Is this true? I think it's true. I just don't think that it is true. It is true. No.

34:08  
Okay, so so so what happened is during a during World War Two, you know, when Nazis were occupying whatever countries they were in, they started banning live music, a jazz clubs and other dance halls. And their preferred version of music was just to play records, no live music, okay.

34:29  
And so, you go to a jazz club and not there's no longer a live band. It's just records that are playing. And

34:37  
eventually later down the road.

34:41  
These like in the 70s that's when these places that were playing records started playing disco. So it's weird because, you know, because the Nazis actually built these these dances and these jazz clubs. And then they later decided no live music, just records

35:00  
For those who don't know, disco is short for discotheque, which in France means library records. Pretty much. Yeah. And so and that's what these dance halls are, you know, that's what they were they were a library of records because they had a whole collection of stuff that they had to play every night right? And now you know, we know disco as like, let's go to the disco like let's go to the club, right? Yeah. Or let's go panic at the disco. So say that panic Kimmy want to go to disco tonight?

35:30  
Or even? Or even to, like, record stores will be called disco texts as well. Because they do have a library of records. I want to say that's more a year. Right? I feels like that's a European. It's more of a European thing. Yeah. And even in like Spanish speaking countries, you know, they'll say discoteca Oh, cuz, you know, because it comes from the French. Okay, the word discotech. Right. And so yeah, so Nazis are in some way tied to disco, too. It's.

35:58  
I mean, it's it's a weird tie, but they were responsible for building the dance halls where disco later became a thing. Okay.

36:06  
So it's more like they're like responsible for the birth of that type of club that played records rather than

36:12  
corrals, like they don't seem like they were writing discos now. They're too busy. Yeah. Yeah.

36:20  
Too soon.

36:22  
Just kidding. But yeah, you know, disco became pretty prominent in the 70s. And it was pretty much an evolution from 1960s r&b, and just 1970s African American and Latino music that was going on at the time. Yet, you know, a bunch of musicians and producers from those two areas, and that's where disco pretty much

36:43  
became a thing. And you know, you had artists like Donna Summer that Jackson's who later started dabbling in disco. Yeah, because these were like, contemporary bands at the time, like contemporary artists. And then disco was, Hey, you know, let's try this. And so, you know, a lot of established artists started shifting gears, and they started doing the whole disco thing. And so, you know, it's cool. And so yeah, a mag Super Mega successful genre in the 70s. And it reached the height of its peak in 1977. With the release of Saturday Night Fever, and the soundtrack, which to this day is still the best selling album of all time. Yeah, not not the best, but one of them.

37:24  
And so Saturday Night Fever, really put disco out there, which was mainly

37:31  
but I mean, the main, one of the main contributors on that soundtrack was Yeah, geez. Yeah, the beegees of course. Yeah. And, you know, disco was already a thing. But it just, yeah, this movie. And this soundtrack, just like really, really pushed it out there. And yeah, sadly, in the 80s, you know, it died out, new styles of music started coming in. And then of course, there was a whole like death to disco or anti disco sentiments with like, the new wave of heavy British metal and whatnot. And I guess also to like, what the punk scene, you know, when when punk started becoming a thing in the 70s. And there was like that, that clash, you know, because some punk bands would play at disco clubs. Okay, and so they were they were like these, like rough sentiments between, between the two groups and stuff. And then they were playing at sandwich shops, and the sandwich makers were like, Fuck, these guys pretty much had to move on to the furniture. And the furniture people were like, Fuck, and so and so. Yeah. So interestingly, you know, disco was embraced by a lot of people. It was also disliked by a lot of people. But I think just like rock and roll, it shared a lot of its successes, you know, like as far as like, drinking alcohol and drugs. And like all the debauchery that comes to rock and roll you could also find in disco, as well. But yeah, as the 80s came along, just go pretty much died out. But I mean, the influence is still is still there.

38:54  
But also to you know, just going back to the disco, and like it's, it's

39:00  
it's actually one of the most costly genres of music to produce. Well, at least at the time, it was because, you know, it wasn't just like the typical drum bass guitar, or the jazz trio that was going on all the time. You know, like synths and stuff. Yeah, that's incisors. And they also had multiple percussions, you had horns, he had string orchestras. He had ABA, you had ABA as well.

39:26  
And you know, and because you're because of how involved disco is you had a whole lot of producers you had to have somebody or who was conducting the orchestra. While the band was recording. You had all sorts of engineers multitrack recording and also use of special effects that weren't really being used elsewhere. So

39:48  
and it was, it was it was, it was pretty common to find a 64 track, vocal recording holy and just one song. That's crazy. So y'all

40:00  
See there is I mean, disco was very big production very, very expensive, very costly, but I think it's worth it. I mean all the money that they put into this stuff I mean disco was to at least to me it's it's a very fun cool genre. Can I sidetrack Yeah, so do you have anything on the beegees? I do. Oh, you do? Okay, no. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you keep going then. Yeah, cuz I was gonna say like I heard you mentioned Saturday Night Fever. And I was like, dude, the beegees were like, they were pretty they pretty much made that soundtrack. And then they were like, super popular, like in that little timeframe because I when I read a little bit about them you I don't know if you have this on your

40:37  
you know what you have about them or not, but they started off like s soft rock. And then they went to disco, which was interesting to me, because I thought they were just always disco, right? In fact, we were at a bookstore. And we were browsing through their their records section. And there is a beegees record before they were the beegees they were calling something brothers. I saw that let me see. I find that real quick. And so yeah, so while you find that I'll talk a little bit Yeah, go for it. So the disco sound was expensive to produce expensive to make but

41:09  
you know, it was the 70s so why not just just go out. And of course everybody associates disco with you go to disco club and you have multicolored lights you've got like bass heavy sounds. There's colorful attire, a lot of flamboyant dancing and whatnot.

41:27  
Like I said, too, it also shares some of the rock and roll excesses too.

41:32  
And yeah, unfortunately, the genre faded in the 80s but its influence is still heard.

41:38  
Even today, you know, that gets in and even to influence other genres like early house techno and euro dance as well too. And even in rock music. You can you can hear disco. And some of the examples I have

41:55  
banned that said they would never go disco

41:59  
is kiss

42:01  
their song I was made for loving you. That's a

42:04  
pretty big one for me. Did they make a whole disco album? Or is it just the one song? See? That's what I was trying to look up because I'm not a big kiss fan. Well, I shouldn't say that. Or I should say I'm not a kiss fan. So like I didn't I don't know a lot of like their history. So when I was looking it up, I thought it was an album. But I did find something interesting. Frank, do you have anything on kiss?

42:24  
Just that they're always snatching up an opportunity? No, I'm talking like with the disco stuff? No, I mean, so that one album where this song came out in his entitled dynasty. Yes. And it still has that bit of that edge to it. But you can definitely hear some of the disco and it came out and it came out on 79. So it was like right at the end. So can I share the story real quick that I saw on Wikipedia. Okay, so is specifically about that song, because I thought the whole album was disco. But apparently it was just that one song. And this is how the story goes. I was made for living you draws heavily from the disco style that was popular in the late 70s. According to the legend, so this is a story. The members of the band were in conflict with their producers who wanted the band to shift to a more commercial sound. So they're like okay, hey discos popular guys. You need to do something disco. In response, the band argued that the lucrative disco songs could be written by anyone in a short timeframe. So they're like, it's nothing like it's kind of like pop. Yeah, exactly. So the story goes at the songs demo was completed in just hours, because they had pretty much bet the producers that they could write a disco song like that. So in hours they did it. While the story is unproven. Paul Stan Lee, who co wrote the song with Desmond Child and Vinnie Vinnie Pon sia has stated that it was a conscious effort on his part to prove how easy it was to write and record a hit Disco Song. Gene Simmons revealed in 2018 interview that always that he always disliked the song because of his vocal part. So basically, they did it. Apparently the story goes that the producers wanted them to make a whole album that was disco, but they're all like, no, but we can write a Disco Song. Because it shit that basically was what they were saying. And apparently and like a couple a couple of hours they wrote a hit Disco Song day. So that was my little story. They don't want that song actually become a hit like a proper hit like on any chart. I think it was Yeah, so Okay, so maybe on the disco hits, I don't know about the Hard Rock. It actually peaked in different charts. In 1779. It was fucking went all the way up to number one on disco syngo disco singles and Canada. Number one in France. Number one in the Netherlands. Number two in South Africa. Number two in Australia. Well, it was number 11 on the Hot 178 and 79. It was number 37 in the Hot Dance Club Play so they were actually playing the shit at discos. Number eight top 100

44:52  
fuck dude. So yeah, it was it. Yeah. Right. I hit disco same Yeah.

44:59  
Yeah, a few hours here.

45:00  
interesting about the album dynasty where this song appears and is that it's the first kiss record to be recorded, not what the whole band in the studio does at the same time. Oh, so I think they were going through some stuff. And they were each individual member recorded at individual studios or they just had different sessions booked because nobody really wanted to be around each other. That's Oh, yeah, cuz that was the last album they wrote right? Before like, they like split, right? Yeah, yeah. And so, so yeah, interesting thing about that. But yeah, kiss is definitely influenced by by disco on that one album.

45:36  
And of course, I was made for loving you as is it is an obvious one. But if you hear the other stuff, you can you can hear some of that as well, too. I was tempted to listen to it, but it didn't.

45:46  
I'll go back though. I think it's pretty good. It's pretty good and especially songs like dirty living and charisma. Okay, I'll check. I'll check them out. And I think 2000 man too, although it's a bit sexist. The song but it's a good song. I was looking for the beegees previous name. I couldn't find it. I saw it somewhere but we'll talk later. And other bands are influenced or that played around with disco is Blondie. Yeah, blondie. Hardy glasses is one two. There was actually quite a few I was listening to Blondie today and right when pretty much like the tail end the laying like 7980 like it was you could tell where the disco influence came. Oh, yeah. Which I don't know. I liked it. Like what was the other one rapture is another one. That's very disco sounding that one. And then the one she did for that soundtrack. It was on any of her albums. A Blondie is not a hurt to band. Yeah, well, Debbie Harry. You know what? I you know what?

46:42  
That song?

46:43  
Oh my god. It was like, son of a bitch. You guys can keep you Frankie, and I'm gonna have to look for it. It's a good song though. The Clash also on their saamy The Magnificent Seven kamiah Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Their song for the clash. Magnificent Seven is also disco influenced. Even Daft Punk to him very obvious with their last album. I think it's a Random Access Memories.

47:11  
Now Rogers, who appeared in a lot of disco recording. Well, he did a lot of folks. He did a lot of funk stuff, too. Yeah. And so yeah. And so now Rogers and Daft Punk. Of course, there's like the disco connection there, especially with their song get lucky.

47:26  
The beegees of course, you know, you can't go

47:30  
on talking about Cisco if you're not gonna include the beegees in there as well. Yeah, cuz I was about to stop you. I was like, do you need it? Because I don't like the beegees personally, but to me, whenever someone talks about disco, there's only like, two artists that pop in my head is because they were popular at the time, but one is BGS. And then the other one is I always think to Yeah, and like him. But again, I don't I don't know a lot of disco because I don't like it. But those are the two artists that pop in my head. Like right away. And interesting too about Abba is that there's actually an Abba tribute band called Gabba I which is Abba covers played in the style of Ramones and tarus D Yeah. I mean, I it sounds horrible. But anyways, I mean, it's I think the band's only released one album, but I mean, I don't know what it sounds like. But I'm curious to hear what an Abba song sounds like written in the style of of a remote so I'll look it up. And even you know more and more current stuff. Static x of course they're billed as evil disco.

48:34  
And I think the first three songs on their Wisconsin death trip album that you can definitely hear the disco influence in there. Even with all the heavy guitars going on, I think Frank's noon is on purpose because he knows I work on a playlist so guys if you want to hear the playlist wherever you like, you know band or artist that we mentioned tonight, just go to rock heavier pod comm you can go to listen on Spotify playlists, which I had a lot of fun putting this one together and I'm not even done yet. show's not over. But I started it and I don't know the 70s playlists. Cool? Yeah. And also to more modern white zombie cover casing the sunshine bands. I'm your boogie man. Oh, yeah, remember that song? So you know definitely.

49:12  
It went into the whole heavy metal thing. Yeah, white zombie and

49:16  
static x. And then even interestingly, my own favorite band Nine Inch Nails have dabbled in disco as well too. on their album with teeth. There are three songs that are very disco sounding. So

49:29  
yeah, just goes everywhere. No, I yeah. So I'm still waiting for you to talk about the Bee Gees cuz I know. Well, I mean, so you're bringing through your whole list baby are gonna be like, talking talking.

49:42  
So the beegees I mean, all I have is just my favorite song of theirs is you should be dancing. Oh, that's all you have on the BGS I have on the beach at the beach. So you brought up that they were on the Saturday Night Fever soundcheck and they were like the main contributors for that soundtrack. So I just wanted to say they were fun.

50:00  
In 1958, by brothers Barry gib Robin gib and Maurice gib. That's funny because they were the beegees. And I was like, Oh, you got very good. Bobo gib Bryce gib.

50:12  
Jeez, you know what I mean? I was like, they kind of fucked up their way anyways. They were popular in the 60s. And like me and Frank were talking about before, I didn't know they were soft rock before and they transitioned to disco in 1975 specifically, okay, and I think somebody suggested that they do that. And that was, what's his name? He sings that song that I don't like that guy. Oh, it's named name. Here it is. The album that I saw. It's called Barry Gibson the BGS Barry given the BG and it's got a pretty dorky album cover. Oh, oh, yeah, there's from that time period. There wasn't that their first album? Yeah, it was the first one. So it looks like it was.

50:58  
Hold on. There's a section here. I want to know what that guy's name is. I'm curious. Oh, Eric Clapton. So clap Derek. Clap. Don't like yeah, so I mean, I like I don't like the song. That one song I forgot the name of that song. But what is

51:14  
that heaven song? I don't know. It's that real slogan. Dude, that's about his son. I know. But I don't like it. You can not like it but you can't like what I say. What did I say about it or anything? Did I talk about his poor son who died by falling out of a window? Hey, look, like if I knew that I forgot. But I like the song because it's just me because here's who said that's the song. Yes, it is.

51:39  
Did I say anything?

51:42  
That's probably why I don't like it.

51:45  
I just knew I hate the song.

51:48  
I didn't say that. Britain, okay. I'm not saying Okay, let's go on. Okay, so, uh, so in 1976 they released their first album, they went full disco. No, no, no. Well, I think they had an album 75 but they went full disco and 76 with their album, children of the world. beegees were one of if not the 1970s biggest musical acts dominating album sells single sales and musical charts of many countries including the US and the UK. They spearheaded and led the disco and pop music scenes of the 1970s so just crazy because like they made disco so popular that Frank mentioned it briefly earlier that even r&b and pop artists like

52:31  
the Jackson Five shifted to disco later on. And then you mentioned Blondie, and there was a whole bunch of acts that like shifted to disco later on. It's pretty nuts because it took the BGS 14 albums yeah to get again to disco. Yeah.

52:46  
Yeah, the albums that they have total.

52:50  
Like that's crazy. Yeah. 22 Oh my gosh, yeah, I had no idea I would have guessed like five

52:57  
Yeah, yeah. So that's what I thought so so like we were saying they were the main one of the main artists on Saturday Night Fever which went on to become like Frank said one of the biggest soundtracks of all time

53:08  
and even now I think it's one of the biggest selling albums like period of all time, it's sold I think up to date, like 40 to 50 million copies that soundtrack

53:19  
some critics have labeled the beegees as the decade decade defining act and band of the 70s so like some critics say that like they are the like pretty much like poster band of the 70s which is kind of crazy because that's what I think of first off when I when I think of 70s but and then also I just want to throw this in real quick before Frank continues. Along with disco funk was one of the most popular genres of music in the 1970s through so funk like James Brown Parliament funkadelic Sly and the Family Stone they pioneered a funk and then they spawned bands like an artists like Stevie Wonder cooling the gang and Earth Wind and Fire who also to dipped into disco. So they all kind of like yeah, disco kind of blended. Yeah, blended everything together, which is weird. Yeah, yeah.

54:10  
Yeah, you know, definitely disco had its influence. It still continues to pop up here in there.

54:16  
I want to do lists some of my favorite disco songs. Go ahead. That's what this episodes for. All right. So I've got five

54:25  
I guess really six but

54:28  
curious. Oh, she doesn't know. Hmm. Yeah. But of course, you know, the beegees I really like you should be dancing. Oh, yeah. That's, it's very, you know, Foo Fighters covered it recently. They did. Yeah, that's pretty good. I like that the dg said. That's right. Yeah, so definitely

54:43  
the BG z should be dancing is one. I also like casing the sun shines, the sunshine bands, I'm your Boogeyman and also white zombies version of it is pretty cool.

54:54  
Village People, the village people I do like to know, I know. I know. They're not all my life.

55:00  
I forgot to put it on there. Okay, but yeah, I like in the Navy.

55:05  
I guess YMCA too because it because it reminds me of Wayne's World. Yeah. You know, so that's a good one to

55:12  
an artist named solo artist named Patrick Fernandez. He's got a song called born to be alive. Oh, that's a good song.

55:18  
Especially the video. I really liked the video. See, I didn't know who I don't think I knew who was saying it. I just know the song. Yeah, that's really good song. It is really good. Yeah.

55:27  
There's also too one hit wonder. Yeah, for a lot of these disco artists. Unfortunately, we're one hit wonders. There's also one of my

55:37  
guilty pleasures is Rick Dees and his cast of idiots. Disco duck. Oh, boy. That was the only one I thought was the one that we had mentioned some time ago. Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna have to look it up again. Oh, remember? this good.

55:56  
Okay, sorry.

55:59  
And there's also disco inferno by the traps. Yeah. Oh.

56:04  
And my all time favorite. Weather girls. It's raining men. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that was what you said. Do you know I was like, I don't know. I don't know the exact year. Okay, but it was in 17. Oh, wow. I didn't I didn't they showed up on our list before. occupation. Yeah. It's on the playlist for us. Yeah. Britain. Do you have any favorite disco songs?

56:28  
I really like dancing queen. Yeah, that's Yeah, and it's weird because that's one of my guilty pleasures too. Like, okay, I don't like disco. But I hear that song. Like this is pretty it's a dance. It's a good song. Like Yeah, yeah, it is catchy and I but I think I like a good amount of disco, but I just don't really like listen to it or seek it out. or know that

56:54  
you know, and a funny thing I want to I want to add in there is a I saw perfect circle some years back like 10 years, 12 years back. And in between set changes. I think this is Maynard's humor, but he was playing a lot of disco music like, like in between bands. A lot of disco music was being played. And I think it was pissing off some people. But I think it's also more like, if you understand the humor, you would appreciate it this music just yeah.

57:22  
And I was just gonna say since you mentioned now Rogers that I got to see him open up for Duran Duran a few years ago.

57:29  
Five years ago or something six years ago.

57:33  
Yeah, no, and it was fantastic. And he I mean, like super high energy just excellent. To her fundraise. Yeah, uh, Kim, do you have any favorite disco songs? Not that I can think of like I

57:47  
I hate to say maybe but like Frank was saying like he was in like, his mom was to discuss them I don't ever remember my mom listening to disco because I think she was more like a teenager in the 80s

58:00  
she was more like listening to I could like contributing more like familiar with a lot of ad stuff. I don't think my dad listened to any discuss gonna be interesting to me. Like I just had I know I know who like the beegees are ya know like there's like other Yeah, no man's and stuff that I've heard of and I know the songs but I can't ever like think like oh yeah, like I love the song or I will listen to it or I know from super familiar with anything is weird. It's funny because on my list too, I had one of the popular artists which I think she's cool. Donna Summer.

58:37  
Crazy is that her song hot stuff. I was listening to it right. And it sounds a lot to me like that's the song that inspired kiss to do.

58:49  
I can see what you're saying because it sounds to me It sounded similar. And I was listening to it because I think so that Donner so hot stuff came out in 70 Both songs came on 79 so I was like, I wouldn't be surprised if it rubbed off on them when they were writing it because to me it sounded similar but you know disco related? I just had to bring it up I just found a similarity and those two songs but Donna Summer Yeah, good.

59:14  
Good stuff. Hot Stuff. Yes. Yeah.

59:17  
What else you got Franco? No, I mean that that's really it for on my piece for for disco.

59:24  
You know, but it also influenced like the dance punk the dance rock, stuff like garbage and the dead 60s. That's that that's one of my favorites. And also like bands like block party as well, too. So.

59:38  
Yeah, definitely. And you know, and as the decades come, you know, we've had this discussion before where there was a resurgence of 80s as like the 80s revival, and now there's like a 90s revival. And so these things come back eventually. They never go away, but they just like stay dormant for a little bit and then they end up coming back. Yeah, so

1:00:00  
I don't know, we might see another disco resurgence in the next 10 years. There's only that

1:00:06  
is my guess. Maybe

1:00:09  
I'm gonna make it happen. Okay, well, let me know when you make the band. Alright, I'll play some guitar for it. Do you have any, like, favorite 70s artists?

1:00:20  
I do. I do. And actually, like, whenever I was trying to think about this

1:00:26  
topic today, you know, a lot of like,

1:00:31  
oh, most of my very favorite bands and whole wide world got started in the 70s. But I decided to hold off and talk about them next time when we talk about the 80s because that was when they were really Yeah, right. That was another thing to like, what they were like they started to like the end of the 70s and then they like got bigger in the 80s Yeah, I was looking at so that's why I wanted to do these episodes back to back because I knew it was gonna kind of you know, yeah, exactly. So um, well, I guess With that said, you know if y'all guys want to jump in at all, because I'm going to talk about the rock side. Yeah, and the rock side too was like in mid to late Oh, yeah. That rolls into the 80s too. So it's kind of like well where exactly do they fit and you know what's crazy with some of those oh two is when they started to shift to the new stuff then the new ad styles are going on like the arena rock the hair metal so like it's kind of weird because everything's those bands started shifting to in their own way. Right so like the pop and r&b was shifting to disco. And then like the rock the like some of these rock bands were shifting to like, you know, the hair metal stuff. So it was weird.

1:01:36  
I whenever you cover rock, I'm going to talk about glam. Okay, so I get that's I don't know how it magically happened because I didn't even realize that I was like, I really dig on glam until I put my list together and then I was like, wait.

1:01:51  
Damn rock, man. I should cover that. No, that's that's cool. Well, everybody better come with their hair tees next week.

1:02:01  
glam rock is of the 70 so I got okay glam covered. Okay, tonight. Okay, so was that like late? What arrow is that? It's it's actually like, solid straight through the 70s and starts to die out towards the end of the set. Oh, wow. Okay, so I missed that. So I'm glad you got that. So me, here's my piece. And you can jump in whenever Frankie to Kim.

1:02:22  
So on the rock side, the 70s saw the emergence of hard rock as one of the most prominent sub sub genres of rock music. So in the 70s, it really started popping and one band that really, I think that I wanted to talk about a little bit was that Black Sabbath are like known to be like the founders or they're labeled as the founders of metal. Right, right. So they got together in 68. And their first album actually came out in this in 70 1970. Okay, so there's our first album Black Sabbath, which everyone calls like the first metal album.

1:02:56  
And what's crazy to me was when I was looking at it, the whole Ozzy era, which we were talking about vocalist last episode, how Black Sabbath had multiple areas of vocalist, like do and Ozzy and stuff. The Aussie era era was strictly in the 70s, which is weird. So the Aussie era was 70 to 78. So and then the first deal album came out in 80. So then when I go back, and look, I don't know if you guys have seen any of like, the old like Black Sabbath music videos were like paranoid and stuff like that. Yeah, if you were watching that shit on mute. It was it was a it was the 70s like Ozzy dress, like in bell bottoms with a little like a frilly shirt, and His hair was just like, whatever. And, like, you look at Tony Iommi and like their dress, like very 70s. And we were talking we I mean, Kim, were having this discussion earlier, where Ozzy didn't really start to dress like gothy Why don't want to say that loosely, until he went with his solo stuff. Which is after he left Sabbath. Yeah, just like his hair was normal dude, when he was feathered hair with like, the regular Yeah, the regular like style or fashion. Yeah.

1:04:08  
So he looked very weird or like branching out to like dark. Yeah. So he looked very seven Prince of Darkness. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So like, he looked very 70s. And it was just so crazy to me. And so yeah, so Black Sabbath carpenters or something? Yeah.

1:04:23  
Like he looked like one of those like, like he was one of those bands. So he pretty much recorded all his stuff with with Sabbath in the 70s, except for the one album in 2013. But other than that, like I was like, Well, that was pretty crazy. So going on. My research showed that other sub genres in Iraq were actually gaining popularity in the 70s as well. When while these other genres that I'm going to mention started gaining popularity, psychedelic rock actually declined in popularity after the death of Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, the self imposed seclusion of Sid Barnett of Pink Floyd

1:05:00  
And the breakup of the Beatles in 1970. So, like, we all know those like, like the 60s, like the whole was the Woodstock stuff. Right? So like, pretty much like when 70 hit all that ended, like because none of these guys were around, The Beatles broke up, you know, it was none of the flowerpower stuff was around. So like, then the 70s came in and it was all just like this crazy, like new. Right? These this new lifestyle and so that was coming up. Um, then, so popular.

1:05:33  
Popular 70s hard rock artists included Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin. Well, this was the first half of the 70s Deep Purple Led Zeppelin, Uriah heep would you mentioned and Black Sabbath then in the second half of the 17th this is again for hard rock, you had mountain grand funk railroad, Alice Cooper ACDC. That was another big one that I wanted to touch on kiss Aerosmith, and Van Halen. So AC DC formed in 73. And which is what's crazy is that the bond Scott era was 74 to 80. So you had like high voltage come out, you had dirty deeds done dirt cheap. So that was like that first incarnation of AC DC was strictly the 70s Okay, and then once you had Brian Johnson come in, that was more the 80s on and that style kind of changed a little bit. Um, Van Halen again formed in 72. Then you had two other the first two are iconic albums came out in 1779. So of course, we were talking about Van Halen last episode, they use like a lot of synths and stuff, but you know, they will he Roth was like row party was like, was a real party, animal and stuff. And I think that kind of

1:06:38  
that was kind of 7070 ish, like 70 style, you know what I mean? Like that, that kind of like attitude, I should say. But then you put like rock and roll with it. And that's pretty much what it was. So you had Van Halen, and then I'm gonna go on to other genres and you guys can jump in if you want. progressive rock, progressive, progressive rock in the 70s, you had Frank Zappa. Then you had more of the pop progressive rock, which I didn't know what this was. Boston, Forerunner, just journey. Brits favorite Kansas, all three of those. Yeah, no, and sticks. So those were the progress of the popular progressive rock bands in the 70s. The new wave, we're going to go into new way. Of course, I know you guys probably have an opinion, talking heads, the cars, the B 50, twos and Divo. So these guys, I don't know what specifically what years these guys came out. But apparently, these were like the popular New Wave artists in the 70s. I'm guessing it was late 70s. Or the 80s. Yeah, like 76, I think is kind of the start of that. But yeah, I and again, like, I mean, all of that stuff is my super favorite. But I was going to talk about next week. Yeah. Because that's when they really started to write. And so tonight, I was just going to talk about the stuff that kind of influenced them that like led up to that sounds good. Next, I have a soft rock, soft rock. You had Billy Joel, Chicago, the eagles and Fleetwood Mac. Okay, so last two, I can get down with the previous two. Yeah, I don't know about the other though. Like Chicago and Billy Joel. I don't know. But Fleetwood Mac, like,

1:08:14  
you don't know that. No, no, no. What I was gonna say was that rumors came out in 77. Yeah. And that is, that was the best selling album of that decade. Yeah. So rumors was like the best selling of the 70s, which is crazy. So So Fleetwood Mac was one of the big ones for soft rock, blues. I don't agree with that, like category that was that for Fleetwood Mac rah rah. Well, what would you consider them? They're just just rock. Like, well, it's not sub genre. Soft. I don't know. I soft rock. To me, the connotation is like, I know, Genesis or something. Yeah, I don't know what you're thinking. Sorry.

1:08:57  
Hey, look, I'm not a I don't categories. These guys that, you know, we've had like discussions. Like, yeah, I don't know. You know, like, cuz I saw the template. Like the carpenters. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah. But soft rock. So that's, but that would be. Wouldn't that be like a dolt?

1:09:16  
Yeah, I don't contemporary. I don't know. Okay. We'll just say rock. We'll take song off. Hollywood Mac. Yeah. You say leave it on top of Billy Joel. And what was the other one?

1:09:26  
Chicago. Again, I didn't put this I know.

1:09:31  
And now you have Ocean Spray with Fleetwood Mac. Oh, he's talking about the skateboarding thing. Yeah. What was it? Tick Tock? Tick Tock. Next one blues rock. So blues Rocky. Clapton. Sorry. Again. I apologize. I

1:09:47  
wasn't trying to say. I just said I didn't like that song. I don't like it because it's too sad. You're right. It is too sad. And this of course brings me back.

1:09:57  
So you can't hate me for saying that.

1:10:00  
No, it is waiting to set. Okay, so we agree on that. ZZ Top and George Thorogood, which I know kind of white,

1:10:08  
blues, blues rock. Yeah, no, no, nevermind. I do I do consider him in that category. Yes, they're good for sure. Yeah, George. See, the top two is just they're more like Southern blues. Like, it's a different type of blues. Like if blues had a there is another sub genre of blues.

1:10:24  
Not like the boring blues. Like, anyways.

1:10:30  
So apparently,

1:10:33  
apparently punk rock started out in the mid 70s.

1:10:37  
I didn't know that. I don't know a lot about the punk history. I know you guys do. But it said here in the mid 1970s that saw the rise of punk music from its pro punk Garage Band roots in the 1960s and early 1970s. The Ramones, Patti Smith, and Blondie are some of the earliest American punk rock acts to make it big in both the UK and the US. Yes, um, but also, if you go back to the proto punk era, you had the Stooges and MC five, yeah, you have to you would have

1:11:08  
in New York does too, as well. And they were like sticking strictly on the side of, you know, the Atlantic. I mean, like, really, I mean, there's a huge argument about where punk started and whether it was a British thing or an American thing. And I don't know and also the whole discussion of like, who was the first pop punk band in America, so why, wait a minute, pop punk? Yeah, like the Ramones are pop punk. Oh, I see what you're talking about. Okay. Uh, yeah, I mean, they are there's, they have a lot of poppy stuff. But But I think, you know, we, we know, pop punk to be a different thing today. Yeah, of course, in the 70s. It was Poppy. But it was also punk. It just wasn't. You know what it is now? Yeah. Cuz I was kind of thrown off when they had Blondie listed as punk. Because when you listen to the early stuff, it does kind of sounds like Ramones ish. But then later on, she did start, like I keep saying she I'm sorry. They started to go more into like the late 70s, the disco style and then more, more pop, I guess. So there were a lot of those like early bands from that generation that were classified as punk because they were pushing boundaries in a lot of different ways and the stuff they were doing and singing about and so on, which I guess now in retrospect, we look back and we're like, that doesn't sound like Yeah, but it all depends on your definition by mine.

1:12:27  
Again, but again, we're sticking strictly to the US. And we haven't talked about any British pound, which is like, yeah, me, I think, you know, where I don't know the image of what we think of when we think of punk comes a lot from the British version, right? With the damned in the Sex Pistols and that was in the Buzzcocks and stuff. No, that's just Oh, somebody so yeah, okay. 76 The Damned and I think the Sex Pistols also they started 7677. Somewhere in there. See, this is where I learned from, from you guys. Because I don't know a lot of the history from those genres. Yeah, like right off the bat when we were talking about this. When the 70s came up. I'm like, oh, Black Sabbath, like, automatically, I started thinking rock. So yeah, that's where I start thinking, but I know you guys know about the other stuff that I don't know about, like the new wave stuff and the punk stuff. So What do y'all do know anything about the new wave stuff? Aside from the side of stuff I mentioned, like, so new wave was kind of born out of punk. Right? Yeah. I mean, as part of that, like post punk sort of era, that thing that's happening, like in the late 70s. And so a ton of bands that are considered new wave that we really associate with the 80s. More they got started in the very late 70s. So even like Depeche Mode, they were started in like 78. And, you know, the cure, they got started in the late 70s. I mean, all these bands that we kind of aligned with that they started in that time, but then really, it's the 1980s when they took off a lot gain popularity and so on, which is why I didn't really want to touch him yet. Yeah, just because I, I feel like

1:14:01  
it, we would do the 80s a disservice if we didn't give up that's Oh, no, no, no, I gotcha. Yeah. And I think too, it's safe to like how I was talking about, like, some bands shifted in the styles on the decades change. Like we can bring them up multiple times. Yeah, there's a lot of overlap. Yeah. So well, pretty much that's all I had. I because I basically just wanted to talk about Sabbath and like bands, because I knew a lot of the 70s was disco, right, so like, that was like the popular thing and that kind of rubbed off on a lot of other stuff. But in the background, he still had stuff doing its own thing. Like, you know, like, like rock had like AC DC still just it wasn't touched by that. It was still just going on. It was just being I mean even to like they were influenced by blues. So you can even say it was like hard rock blues, you know, genre. And then Black Sabbath was going on with Ozzy and they were like forming, they were building up metal basically. And then once ABS came in, that's when the influence really started kicking in. So

1:15:00  
Like, I just had to mention them. But that's all pretty much I had in the rock. Like I couldn't really see anything major that, you know, was happening aside from who was popular at this time. And maybe like you were saying, the 80s is probably when we'll be able to touch on them some more, because that's when they'll kick in, and really gain more traction stuff. Yeah, exactly. But uh, that's all I mean, that's all I had. I don't know if anyone else has anything else because then I guess this will be a perfect setup for the 80s. Well, I was talking, I don't know. Whatever you got, what do you

1:15:33  
I honestly have I mean, I like I said earlier, I know of all the people that y'all are mentioning, I've heard the songs I noticed that but like, I don't, I've never sought it out on my own, I guess right ever was around people that were like actively listening to it. Right. I guess that would be more like my aunts or like my stepdad who like were growing up with the music. Yeah, that makes sense. And so like, I don't know, like, I know, like the stuff that you're mentioning like the later stuff in the rock. Yeah, my dad This is Van Halen. So I was I'm familiar with that a little bit more. I'm all those other ones. But everything else kind of like, oh, you're sure? No, no, I'm here to learn. Yeah. And Britt, whatever you want to say? You want me to grab a new beer and check it. Okay. So we're gonna grab a smoothie beer. And Brett, you can start whatever you wanted to say. Okay, I feel like I'm in teacher mode. I get ready. You're no, no.

1:16:27  
No, I was just gonna, I mean, I didn't realize it at the time when I set out to do this episode. I mean, I was like, sure, seven days silent. There's a ton of bands I like from the 70s. And honestly, I thought, well, gee, I need to cover all those new wave bands and all the punk bands because they all started in the 70s. And, and stuff. And then I thought, you know, I mean, I think we wouldn't be doing the episode a disservice if we didn't talk about some other bands that were like really popular in the 70s that kind of

1:16:56  
got started in the 60s or whatever. So I mean, my,

1:17:01  
my very first person I thought of, for the 70s was David Bowie. Because I mean, even though he got started in the 60s, it was really in the 70s when he became super prolific and, and I didn't realize until today and I did the research that

1:17:18  
you know, he made many many albums. But in the 70s he put out 11 album Oh shit, yeah, so in the 60s, it was just a few in the 70s it was 11 and then from 1980 to 2016 it was 13 so so you can see that like that the 70s were really that time for David Bowie when it was just like just putting out a ton of ton a ton of music. And and of course in the 70s was when David Bowie created that his alter ego Ziggy Stardust

1:17:53  
and so that was really like part of the glam movement right? And but but David Bowie was not like solely responsible for glam really, it's accredited to T rex and Marc Bolan from T rex and who, you know, they got started in the late 60s, but then it was really in the 70s when they became very popular and became just like, like Beatles level like fame in the UK. What genre would you put them in like a lamb for its own that is its own thing. Yes. And, but then Marc Bolan came back like a few years later and said glam is dead and I'm over it or whatever. But really, they were he was the creator of it. He's credited as being the creator of it because he was kind of the first one to come out and kind of beat because like glam is also associated not just with the music but with the style of dress. And that it's like very flamboyant and very, you know, shiny glittery, you know, a lot of that and they also played around with gender roles they played around with like androgyny and things like that. So you know, there's a lot of that as you can see with Marc Bolan, as you can see with David Bowie. And also one of the other bands that I had on my list for tonight, which was Roxy Music. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Which I think they were just super huge in the 70s to also kind of a part of that glam rock but not like, you know, pigeon holed into that genre. They were really like, kind of more diverse and and a part of other genres as well. And but they're I mean also just super huge lead singer Bryan Ferry

1:19:35  
you know went on to do all kinds of awesome things. Later in his solo career Frankie and I saw him

1:19:43  
some years back you know, some It was a while ago, but it was just outrageously awesome.

1:19:49  
But and actually because we were talking about the Rolling Stones earlier, but Bryan Ferry and Mick Jagger shared a woman.

1:19:58  
mention of Sharon

1:20:00  
I'm actually What was her name I Jerry Hall. Jerry Hall. She was a model and she was actually like, I didn't know this until today and I did my research that she's from Gonzales, Texas. Holy shit. I know right? But it

1:20:14  
was like tiny Yeah, but she was with Bryan Ferry and she left him for Mick Jagger and if you look at their picture side by side, you're gonna be like what?

1:20:24  
But she has she had four of Mick Jagger's eight kids holy.

1:20:29  
Yeah, I also found out because of doing this research that Mick Jagger's kids

1:20:35  
there's a 46 year difference between his oldest and his youngest child. Yeah.

1:20:42  
Holy crap. That's crazy. lifetime. That's

1:20:46  
like,

1:20:48  
twisting. But yeah, like Yeah, but Okay, so you're like, 40 something. You're like, I have a little brother. Yeah. Hello, brother.

1:20:58  
Yeah, you have to start all over again. I mean, he's loaded. He got I'm sure he's not doing any actual childcare.

1:21:07  
Get the chauffeur? Take him to school. Get some a nanny

1:21:12  
and the shaft and but yeah, that's about the tutor. That's right. You're set. Um, but uh, yeah, so So those three bands were really very solidly in the part of the glam movement as well as and I didn't I was just gonna mention Mott the Hoople, because they also were a part of that wouldn't What? Mott the Hoople? Mott the How do you spell it? mo TT mo? TTH? Apple.

1:21:43  
Ma,

1:21:44  
h o p le le Yeah. Mott the Hoople. Okay, I got a look that up. Yeah. And they were there. So like David Bowie, and Roxy Music and T rex are all in England, right in the UK. And then Mott the Hoople is here in the US, as well as a band that we mentioned Frankie and I mentioned not too long ago sparks sparks. sparks are how you spell that. Like you think like sparks, like sparks. Yeah, cuz like nowadays, somebody was spelled with the x.

1:22:16  
The number eight Yeah.

1:22:19  
Yeah. Sp AR, hashtag. Yeah. or pounds. I know. Sorry. Yeah, no, no, we is a kind of a joke that we had gone to a shoe store one time and the employees were at the register. And so instead of telling him like, Oh, it's something something pound sign. He's like, Oh, it's hashtag something. I'm like, dude, hashtag is a media thing. And they were calling it a hashtag.

1:22:44  
They call it now that I even like, like, younger.

1:22:51  
Student also because like, I think we had we had looked it up or we had talked about it too, because there's no like rotary phones anymore and stuff like

1:22:59  
that. So now that that doesn't exist anymore. It's kind of like a pound. keypad on the

1:23:05  
Yeah, but people think that's the hash. Yeah, you're right. kids think that's the hash has kids. If you're out there, it's a pound sign. It's used for the numbers.

1:23:18  
The number sign?

1:23:20  
They're gonna think tic tac toe is another version of tic Tock. Night.

1:23:25  
But uh, oh, brick, go. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. It's okay. And I mean, I was, yeah, so sparks. Okay, so far. Sue, Frankie and I talked about because we recently saw the documentary about them,

1:23:38  
which is amazingly cool. And just there, they never really got like, super commercially successful here in the United States. They were more popular in the UK than they were here. But they have a gazillion and a half albums, and they're actually really big influence on a whole lot of people. And they recently did the soundtrack for a movie that's on Amazon Prime right now. A new movie called net and net. Oh, yeah. Do but did they have any hit songs in the US at all? Because I'm just curious, like, I don't know, because I've never heard those two bands that you mentioned. I never I don't know the names, but I'm curious if I notice. Yeah, they've got one called number one and heaven. It number one.

1:24:20  
Number one, number one song in heaven and then another one called this town. This town ain't big enough for the both of us. Okay, I'll look it up on the Yeah. And like, a lot of their songs have been covered as well. So like, personally, when I watched the documentary, I was like, I know that song because Siouxsie and the Banshees covered it I didn't even know it was a spark song. Yeah, and they they also did a song with Jane Wheatland the bass player from the gogos.

1:24:46  
So I mean, they were around they were doing a lot of stuff but they just never like got that like commercial success here in the US. So and then I was gonna mention one other band too is not actually like glam, but

1:25:00  
I was very popular in the Well, yeah, gained some popularity in the 70s. And, and like Blondie and like talking heads, were a part of that group of bands that played at cbgbs in the 70s. And that's where they got their start so like, I guess that that particular venue was very much like yeah, that was like a little hot box for like all that. Yeah. Even though the name of it was like country bluegrass. What is it? Oh, abgb Yes, country bluegrass, something. I don't know. Well, that's why I was making that joke. So we had gone to this brewery and it was I was telling you guys those. Austin, beer garden brewery, so as abgb and I kept calling it a B jeebies? Yeah, cuz the cbgbs cbgbs. Oh, but yeah, no, go. Yeah. But so yeah, so Blondie Talking Heads. The police a little bit later. They were a big part of that. The cbgb scene but then the band that I was gonna mention, which is television. Okay, I know you've mentioned them before. Yeah, cuz I like them a lot. Okay. Yeah, so cbgb country bluegrass and blues.

1:26:07  
Hilarious, because that was not the bands that played the

1:26:11  
attention of hilly. What's his last name?

1:26:16  
Slovak, Slovak.

1:26:19  
Are we talking about the owner of cbgb? The original you're thinking of the guy playing?

1:26:25  
Halle crystal Halle Chris. Okay. Yeah, I was like, What? Sorry? Same. Yeah, same first name. retroviruses. 80s. So yes, yes. Yes. Yeah. So we can talk about them next week? Yeah, yeah. So television is like very solidly a part of that original crew. And the one was that punk band dead boys. The boys. Yeah, yeah. So they were all a part of that.

1:26:50  
That cbgb scene interest kind of got that whole thing going. But yeah, so I didn't realize when I was started putting the list together that I was accidentally putting a list together of like glam rock bands. And then it just got because I was like, I don't want to talk about my 80s bands yet. No, rob them next week. I mean, that and then it just so happened that these were all glam. Man. Yeah, no, I didn't know that. So that's, that's very interesting. And then what's weird is that we're gonna go from the 80s into the 90s. And the glamour is gonna change in the Oh, yeah. Yeah. So all that's gonna. Yeah, so all these guys were a big influence on the glam of the 80s. Of course, but and so and it changes dramatically. I mean, these guys, the original glam movement was kind of, you know,

1:27:35  
there was like, a push back against some of the previous genres that were happening. Like, like the 60s, very political, you know, this is like, yeah, intentionally not that. Right. And this is intentionally super flamboyant. And super superficial. Yeah. In order to kind of it's just like, not serious. It's just like having fun. Yeah. And to move away, you know, in a very intentional move to get away from the political nature of music that was happening previously. And so

1:28:05  
they really seemed to have had a lot of fun. Yeah. And then and were humongous influences on other bands come moving forward. Right. So like these guys influence like, punk they influence I mean, because even though punk was kind of like a little bit of a pushback against glam in a way because they were trying to move away from that, and they are trying to say something political again. Yeah, they still took a whole lot of the costuming. Right a whole lot of like the appearance from glam right? Oh, like the whole, like, just the Mohawks and yeah, okay, now I got you. safety pins, and yeah, yeah, all that stuff. So it's all like, it's all connected, right? I mean, it's all either a push back against something previously, or it's influenced by something from previous time. So it's all like, linked together very interestingly. Yeah. Well, we're gonna see this going through the episodes. So 70s was the first the first stop. But, uh, no, I mean, I learned a lot from it. I mean, I didn't.

1:29:03  
You know, I tried to do as much research as I could with the time I had, but I knew what I wanted to touch upon. And then Luckily, you guys touched upon stuff that I didn't touch on. So it kind of connected. Yeah, but the 80s is gonna be a fun one. Because the 80s is very, is there's a bunch of crazy stuff going on. Yeah, so and then the 90s I know you're gonna have a lot to say about the 90s stuff, cuz there was like a whole pop resurgence. You know, there were like, a lot of the boyband stuff and stuff was going on. And like there was you know, then a lot of that stuff led into the new metal because a new metal kind of wanted to be like, you know, very, like rock wanted to be like, Oh, that's because I was so popular. I don't know how to explain it. But when we get there, we'll you know, I'll explain it. You know what I mean? It was kind of like a pushback thing. Kinda. Yeah. Yeah. But

1:29:48  
so, but then again, Fred nurse was on. What's it called? Total Request Live all the time. Yeah, this is true. So

1:29:57  
Christina, stuff so anyways, but um,

1:30:00  
Did you guys have anything else you wanted to say about the 70s? No. No. I mean, I think music wise, it was a very interesting era, and diverse and very diverse. And there's a lot of stuff going on. Musicians stealing other musicians, girlfriends. Yeah, there was a lot of that. Yeah, we mentioned it twice this episode. And that's just what we know. We haven't done the research on that. And they both tied into the Rolling Stone. Yeah, it was probably all tied to the room. But uh, Alright, guys. Well, what you know what, before we leave, let's try this beer. And then we'll try something out all about it. Yeah, well, no.

1:30:34  
I got the new one too. Okay, so we'll try some beers before we leave. So this next one, this one, I got this one specifically for Kim and Britt. This is a another smoothie style. We had some smoothie style ales. A few episodes back. Excuse me. Kim and Britt liked them a lot.

1:30:52  
I don't know what's going on with her. Okay. Oh, sorry. And then. So this is from wild mind ales. This is from a waunakee Wisconsin my favorite place because it looks like Milwaukee 4.5% ABV for 16 fluid ounces. That's a smoothie style sour ale with pineapple, mango, lime and milk sugar. It's called planetary shoes. So Frank, Frank, I'm sorry Britt Kim. Y'all give it a shot. Yeah, I know that pisses me off too. Every time I pick up my glasses damn thing gets stuck to them. It tastes like a pineapple Mimosa.

1:31:28  
I know y'all like Moses.

1:31:30  
I approve hot. Okay, y'all like this really sad. It's official. Y'all like the smoothie stuff.

1:31:38  
Kim, what do you rate it? Five?

1:31:42  
Oh, this is the this is yours? Yeah, I'm gonna go five as well. Okay, so let me give it a taste. I don't know what it tastes like. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice. It's like fruity and also sour.

1:31:55  
It has like the mix of what we both like, yes. She doesn't like it too sweet. And it's sometimes I'm like tired of the sours. So it kind of combo. It's good. That's actually a pretty good balance.

1:32:08  
I don't know why. For me, these are a little too sour to me. My GPA 4.5 I do like it a lot. It tastes good. 4.5 for me, and then Frank, go ahead and talk about your new nano college got. Yes, this is another coincidentally, Canadian drink from from a barista from the great white north, the great white guy.

1:32:33  
From from groovy, it's a stouts non alcoholic. And it tastes like

1:32:41  
iced coffee. Tastes like your eyes. It's not like morning coffee. I'm gonna trust you on that. Because they don't like stouts we all I mean, I know we all don't like stouts but I'm gonna let you read it first and then and then I'm gonna try it sounds good. I like it. It's a

1:32:56  
I'd say like a 445 say give it a four. I don't know. I still taste mango from this in my mouth. But yeah, I know. I tasted it right after but it's I mean, it is good. It tastes it just has a very coffee flavor.

1:33:10  
It does it even smells actually.

1:33:15  
It smells like coffee, but it tastes like black and mild to me. Every

1:33:19  
black male to me. It does.

1:33:23  
It smells good. Oh, yeah, it does. Right. Yeah, big time. I'm not gonna read it because it's not my business.

1:33:31  
friend gave it a four so we're gonna leave it like that. Yeah. I think I think I don't know personally for me that

1:33:39  
it dissipates it dissipates? Yeah, quick, quicker than Yes. doubts. I think if it had some milkiness to it. It would have given it more of a richer base. Maybe like cut the the coffee a little bit? Yeah. A little bit. Yeah, so maybe if there was like a little bit of dairy in the sauce, a little bit of something that tasted like a beer. Yes, it just tastes like iced coffee. And some it's not bad if I thought I if I like sought out a nice coffee but

1:34:10  
oh, you went back for more?

1:34:14  
Yeah, just doesn't really quite have a beer taste to it. I think okay, I take that back. It doesn't Well, that's not bad. No, I don't. Okay, if I had to read it.

1:34:25  
I would give it like a 2.5 like in the middle I'd have to go in the middle because the grump The aftertaste is not super shitty, like a lot of the other stouts it goes away and you kind of taste the coffee after a while. But it's just like initial initial. Yeah, it's it's not super, super bad. But yeah, give it like a 2.5 Yeah, if I if I had to read it.

1:34:47  
Okay. Alright, so y'all good? Yeah. Okay, so we'll try some more beers after we're done with this and then I'll post them on Instagram. But guys, you can go to our website, rock talk. Happy Hour pod calm you can find

1:35:00  
The if you wherever you listen to podcasts, you can actually listen to podcasts everywhere. If you listen to on Apple podcast, Google podcast, Spotify, we have the Spotify link for the podcast on the website, also the Spotify playlist on the website as well. So for every episode, we have a playlist that I create for all the bands and artists that we discuss. We put some of my favorite songs on there. I try to put them in order the best I can. Also to social media, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, everything except YouTube.

1:35:32  
I think we even have Tumblr connected to Instagram, if anyone still uses that shit. I've never been on it, but I know it's connected to insert. So um, but uh, yeah, I mean, if y'all don't have anything else to say we get never good. Yeah. And we're good for next week. Sure. Alright guys, so next week's gonna be at so we're gonna, I'm gonna tease my hair. I tried to pull it up. Imma tease it. some hairspray.

1:35:56  
Okay, so no, I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. So maybe put some eyeliner on. I can't wait. So, look like that guy from the cure. What's the name again? Robert Smith.

1:36:08  
Put some powder. Yeah. All right. All right. All right, guys. See you next week.

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