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Ep. 15 - Hispanic Heritage Month (Hispanic Bands/Musicians)

September 26, 2020 Rock Talk Happy Hour Episode 15
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Ep. 15 - Hispanic Heritage Month (Hispanic Bands/Musicians)
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Ep. 15 - Hispanic Heritage Month (Hispanic Bands/Musicians)
Sep 26, 2020 Episode 15
Rock Talk Happy Hour

This episode, we celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month! We try and review different Mexican beers, while also talking about musicians and bands with a Hispanic background! Cheers! Salud!

Spotify playlist for Episode 15: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/28BcLWskFpdjWyFrxYkWro?si=r9b0pHx4S5abKUYzVkXdjw

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This episode, we celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month! We try and review different Mexican beers, while also talking about musicians and bands with a Hispanic background! Cheers! Salud!

Spotify playlist for Episode 15: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/28BcLWskFpdjWyFrxYkWro?si=r9b0pHx4S5abKUYzVkXdjw

0:19  
Hello, everyone, welcome to rock dock happy hour a show where we sample and discuss craft brews locally, nationally and internationally. We also discuss a wide range of music topics and hope to serve as an informational channel for all of our listeners. My name is Frank and I am joined by Brits, Mario and Kim. Occasionally we have theme nights and in celebration of Hispanic Heritage Month our theme night tonight is Hispanic musicians. We will talk about some of our favorite musicians who are of Hispanic descent, and whose artistry has shaped music over the years. Well, the list is too long for us to name. We will share a small sample with you all tonight. So National Hispanic Heritage Month is celebrated every year between September 15 and October 15 in recognition of the contributions and influence of Hispanic Americans to the history, culture and achievements of the United States. It began as Hispanic Heritage week in 1968. When then President Lyndon B Johnson signed legislation recognizing it as such, and then expanded into a month long observance of the Reagan administration in 1988. September 15, was chosen as the start date because it is the anniversary of the independence of five Hispanic countries. Costa Rica in Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua, who are the parent are declared independence from European Rome in 1821. Additionally, Mexico, Chile and belissa celebrate their independence days on September 16, September 18, and September 21, respectively. Before we get before we begin tonight's episode, some terms to know Hispanic, Chicano and Latino what is Hispanic what is Chicano, what is Latino Hispanics are people who are natives of or descendants from Mexican from Spanish speaking countries. The word Hispanic is a nationally recognized universal term that serves all Spanish speaking groups in the US. Hispanic is a term most commonly used in the American Southwest Texas and East Coast. Chicanos are people who are natives of or descendants from Mexico, who live in the US. for American born Mexican descendants, it is more of a cultural, ethnic and community identity. And Latinos are people who are natives of or descendants of a Latin American country. Latino, Latina, and Latin x are terms most commonly used on the west coast, specifically, California. And that is my bit for tonight.

2:39  
Dang, that was a good bit because like I was doing research, and I kind of I never like really got into like the political correctness of those terms and go looking into the research or like going into the research of it, I realized that those terms are used like interchangeably, but some people argue like, Oh, no, if you're Latino, or Latina, this is, this is what it means. And if you're spanic, this is what it means it's separate. But for the most part, it's put together and that's just more of like, a guess, a guide of like, where the lineage comes from, which kind of made sense to me, I just never really paid that much attention to it. But yeah, going through the artists too. I was like, wait a minute, I also saw that a term for Hispanic means like, from Spanish descent, obviously. But basically, anyone who was Spanish speaking was put into that category. And when you try to separate it by, like Latin or Hispanic, I'm like, well, they all speak Spanish. Well, majority of them there, they connect in the middle somewhere speaking Spanish, because I know, some of them were going to speak like Portuguese or something, or some, like if you come from Brazil, right. But I was looking at these artists, where some of them did come from Brazil, or other places that were not considered Hispanic, yet they still spoke Spanish, and their music contain Spanish. So technically, that would make them Hispanic by the other definition. But uh, yeah, so it was cool that you came up with all that because I was going in, I was like, kind of confused at first. Yeah.

4:04  
And I figured it it's one of those. It's one of those topics where like, the terms are not well understood and sometimes used interchangeably. And I thought maybe I shared a little bit of information on that. Maybe it'll give some people some idea of like, you know, the terminology and whatnot.

4:17  
Yeah. And it makes sense. And I think, I think after doing that, and hearing you say what you were saying that yeah, it is like, good, because especially when you explain how, why has hispanic heritage, what just it month is celebrated? And why it is that kind of all makes sense, especially when you named the countries that kind of why they did it. why they did it for me were like, yeah, that's all under the Hispanic umbrella. But you know, yeah, so those can be considered Latino people, you know. Yeah, I don't know. It was very interesting. I really didn't know about any of that stuff. And

4:53  
what's interesting too, is like how the word Hispanic is, you know, like I mentioned earlier, like Latino is mostly used and like The West Coast versus Hispanic is used everywhere else mostly in the rest of the US. So I mean, I don't I don't know. It's just like, a preference over over the word and some parts of the kind of feel like it's a regional preference thing. Yeah.

5:13  
And also sometimes an individual preference. Not everybody is in agreement about what

5:19  
sure what sure mature.

5:21  
And I also was looking somewhere to that a lot of these terms terms came up, so that here in America, they could identify those groups. And it was very hard for them to kind of put those groups into a category. So like, that's where like, Latino came out to because I guess like, well, the census is going on right now. And I think that was like one. Probably one thing that made this issue come up originally is we're like, oh, we need a name this group of people. And I was like, oh Latino, have your from here, like Hispanic or whatever. And sometimes there's parts on that thing that throw me off too, because I'm like a, because of how they have to categorize

5:56  
times they have pick like, Alaskan Island Pacific. Yeah. And then it's like Caucasian is on there. A different sex? Yeah. It's like, are you Hispanic? Do you identify as Hispanic? Like, yeah. Separate because they have the DMV, and that was like,

6:15  
the race and ethnicity?

6:17  
Yeah. Non Hispanic, Caucasian. Yeah. categories, right? Because if you have a lot of Spanish lineage, then you're technically Caucasian, right? There are people who are from Mexico. very fair, who are mostly Spanish blood who would technically be categorizes Hispanic?

6:35  
Yeah. It's crazy.

6:36  
Yeah, there's a lot of differentiations and things that go along with it. But yeah, that was super informative.

6:43  
Yeah, it was super informative. informative. Now's a good intro, man. This is the first episode Episode 15, or somebody else does the intro. felt so good. Yeah. But no, thank you, Frank. That was awesome. Got to be of service. Um, well, usually, before we start to talk about what we do, what we're drinking and stuff. We have a little segment where we talked about things that got leftover from past episodes. We call it the hangover. There was one thing that I had that I was gonna, I don't know why we didn't mention it. Or I don't know why I went over it on my list. But we're talking about German artists, if you didn't listen to our last episode on Oktoberfest, and I saw something that I thought was interesting. And it's that Milli Vanilli is German. Yeah. And I did not know that. So those were like the original Liberty anchor. Yes.

7:36  
They paved the way for, you know, other artists.

7:40  
And then I think after the whole scandal like the real Milli Vanilli put out an album.

7:44  
Yeah, I think so. I think I don't know. Britt probably knows more about that story than I then I. But because I know their name has popped up before like, No, no, I think. No, no, no, because I think this is just like you're like, I don't know, I think I think I've heard you mentioned them before, like, and I'm like, well, Britt probably knows.

8:08  
Actually, Frankie knows more about them than I Oh, there

8:11  
we go. Then Frank. Okay, well, let you tell us

8:14  
I just wanted to mention them. I just thought it was funny that they were on my list and I didn't bring them up.

8:19  
Yeah, but the the real mailman nearly ended up putting out an album under the name the real Milli Vanilli. That's Yeah, and the other two dudes who are pretending to be Milli Vanilli. One of them, I guess, couldn't get over the embarrassment and killed himself and the other guy ended up having a successful I didn't know that. Yeah, he became the other guy became a successful record producer, music producer, so Oh, I guess he Yeah, he redeemed himself, you know?

8:44  
Hmm. Okay. I did not know that. Um, did you have anything else to say on the hangover stuff? Cuz uh, for those of you who don't know what we're doing, we had part one of our Oktoberfest to celebrate the beginning of Oktoberfest last week. Next weekend. I think it's at the end of next weekend. Oktoberfest is going to be Indians. We're going to do part two of Oktoberfest fest next week. So we'll be talking about some more Oktoberfest stuff. I don't know what exactly, but we're gonna be trying more Oktoberfest beers. Definitely. And actually, I'm gonna talk a little bit about German music. There's some stuff that I didn't talk about last episode. So, uh, you guys don't have anything right, Kim? Britt? No, right. Okay. So it's like Frank said, we're going to talk about artists with the Hispanic backgrounds. Mm hmm. I'm also too We're going to be drinking beer with Hispanic or Latin backgrounds origins. And I just wanted to talk a little bit about the kind of beers that we're going to be drinking tonight actually learned some stuff about them that I did not know. There's a reason why they taste different than the American lagers. And I didn't know this. So Mexican style lager, that term it's not really identified as it its own type of beer. And I think in one of our early episodes, I talked about this where the Brewers Association, they identify certain types after a certain amount of time once like they become popular throughout the US across multiple breweries. So once it becomes popular or brute across the multiple breweries in the US, then they'll start to look at this new type quote, unquote. And then that's when it will be added to the list of official types. So if you look at a lot of, I guess, especially craft beer, you'll see a lot of breweries come out with like, actually have an example of one from California here in the ice chest. They call a Mexican style lagers. And that's an American craft brewers term used when they try to clone a lager from Mexico. So Mexican style lager is not really a style. It's a term that American brewers use when they try to imitate a lager from Mexico. And the reason why they try to do that is because they're made different and I didn't know how, what the difference was, you can tell the taste between like their psyches and something else, like they just they taste a little lighter. They taste a little crisper. Of course, they have different tastes, but like you can add lime stuff to them and, you know, obviously the salt and stuff, and they just they taste different. They're not like the straight up American lagers. Like you can't do that, too. What can I say?

11:27  
is you can I mean you can dress any beer? I actually like Kim's right you Coors Light dressed with salt and lemon. Oh,

11:39  
okay, where's light with salt and lemon? lime, lemon?

11:43  
Hmm. It turns?

11:45  
Course light any worse. Okay.

11:48  
Well, I'll edit that part out. But um, so. So well, but going back to

11:53  
that, but you can address it. Yeah,

11:54  
well, okay. Well, going back to the to the, to the flavors. I'm Frank. I don't know if any of you guys knew this. But the loggers from Mexico, a lot of the legit ones. Um, they're made with maize. Yes, they are. Yeah, so the percentage, I want to say a little bit under 50% of their, of their volume of what the malt would be is replaced by the maize. So the, it's gonna affect the flavor differently. It's also cheaper. So the maize is cheaper than a lot of the malts that are out there using the beers. Also, too, I think they're hot content is not that high either, which is why they're not as bitter. A lot of them aren't. Um, but uh, so like a lot of the main ones that people look at when, when they see American breweries trying to imitate these loggers, these Mexican loggers. Mainly, you're going to be looking at Corona, de Gotha, and Modelo, those are the probably Big Three that they're going to try to emulate. Um, I don't know that. So that's why I tried looking at I never understood why Mexican style lager was in its own category. And it's because it doesn't need to be. It's basically, American breweries trying to imitate the Mexican versions of the lager already out there. Um, but yeah, so that's what I wanted to say about the, you know, give a little information on that.

13:22  
I think maybe that started with the indigenous people

13:26  
of the early Americas because I'm pretty sure yeah, yeah. Because in addition to in addition to maize, they would also make alcoholic style alcoholic type drinks with just fermenting fruits in water and whatever sugar they had at the time.

13:41  
And you started doing hair.

13:42  
Yeah, I started experimenting with that. So

13:44  
I know we had one of Frank's drinks. Off the show. Last episode. It was really good. And I wanted to see if he was gonna do it again for this episode was I was like, well, it kind of makes sense for him to do it. But I'll let him talk about it when the time comes in this episode, so we can try what he what he did. Um, so I guess we can jump to what we're drinking. And I'll let Brett talk about this real quick because Brett actually got us. From what I saw doing my research is probably one of the best Mexican loggers out there. And I've never had one before and I tasted it tastes really good. Yeah, I really liked the flavor and the smell of it. It's just,

14:25  
it's one of my favorites, for sure. We're drinking a safe eco. And it is made in Mexico and Nevada, which is in

14:34  
Wheeler, the state of Florida, you know.

14:38  
But no, and I was just telling Frankie that like, for the longest time, I've figured it was made somewhere on the Pacific. Oh, no. It's made in the landlocked state, but that's cool. Because it's delicious. And yeah, I don't know what else to say about it other than it's really, really good and if you haven't tried it, you should

15:00  
I guess going to ratings I'm gonna go ahead and rate it a five. I think this is pretty damn good. What do you all What do you ladies want to read it for? Oh, well, okay,

15:10  
great. Let's say 4.7 4.7. Okay, yeah.

15:13  
All right. Yeah, I really like that a lot. But, uh, I guess since we good. I was gonna open another one. Go for it. Okay, cool. So I'm gonna open another one. And then once we open this, this next one, talk about it real quick. Then we'll go into the, we'll start talking about Oh, yeah. What do you drink?

15:34  
I'm just drinking lemonade.

15:37  
lemonade. It's not it's

15:41  
Oh, yeah. So it's an I was fresca styled ly made actually.

15:45  
Sounds good. Mm hmm.

15:48  
It's good. It's got the right amount of sweetness in it and got the right amount of sour. So yeah,

15:51  
it's really nice, because it's not super sweet.

15:54  
Oh, yeah. Sometimes lemonades, like pre bottled stuff is like, super sweet. Yeah.

16:02  
So I guess we started this episode off pretty, pretty balanced. So we started talking about well, how the Mexican loggers like basically Britt started us off with one of the better ones out there. And I decided to go to one that I brought with us. This one's called taco truck lager. And it's by the dustbowl Marine Company from California. So this is one of those that that is actually this is an independent brewery. Yes, it is. So as an independent Brewers Association logo on there, okay, so that means there are crapper, um, they're independent. So this is an example of an American we're trying to emulate Mexican lager. So this is 4.7 ABV. Like I said, it's crude in California. Katie said, Hi. Alright, so let me

16:54  
my back and I picked up my finger and I went

16:58  
like, I'll do what I want.

17:02  
My house

17:08  
All right, we'll see how this tastes. Smells.

17:13  
Smells good.

17:15  
All right. So let's see what California has got. If you want more than that, we've got some more in here.

17:23  
Let's see.

17:26  
assuming it's good.

17:28  
No, I don't I don't know how it tastes so. Alright.

17:34  
Let's do this.

17:37  
It smells smells good. Not it's not it doesn't smell as sweet as the sequel.

17:46  
I don't know. Oh, yeah. Right after that. It's very bitter. That's bitter. And it's like

17:53  
I don't doesn't seem like more carbonated than I see more carbonation, you know? Oh. Mm hmm. It definitely has more carbonation. There's not a lot of flavor to it. I don't it's so crazy. I don't know what is wrong. I'm telling you guys what my palate I don't taste bitterness as much as I used to for lops after I started drinking pilsners and IPAs, like I don't. The bitterness doesn't hit me any more or less. No, now I'm drinking IPAs because I want to Wow. Which is weird. Yeah,

18:23  
the solid line makes it a little bit better, but not much.

18:25  
I think some of these are, like, made that way now. So that you can dress in a better way. Yeah. Um, let me see.

18:39  
I squeeze the lemon side and then I took a bite. I mean, there

18:43  
gets there's like nothing here. I'm gonna go with. I mean,

18:47  
I wouldn't go out of my way to get another now. It's definitely nothing special. I'm gonna go with like a 1.5. Not and not necessarily Can I was critical. It just doesn't. It doesn't have any taste to it. Like, no, no, no, I'm just giving my opinion. I'm just saying Why?

19:05  
I want my wife. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Like the first drink. I

19:09  
was like, Yeah, I was gonna say it too. I mean, I don't like hate it, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Yeah, I don't get out or

19:15  
Yeah, I don't hate either. I just wish it was more but. Well, this is a good example of

19:21  
like, I finished a whole one by myself. No, that's I'm glad we're splitting it. Oh, okay.

19:26  
All right. Cool. That's a good criteria. Yeah.

19:28  
To have to have seven beers down.

19:33  
Frank, you want to kick off our

19:36  
as an artist?

19:38  
Okay. Yeah. So like I said earlier, this is pretty overwhelming. But I think you know, some of us have like a mental list and some of us have an actual list. my list is just a condensed to the artists that mean something to me, you know, so I'm going to start off with the one that was born 1963 in LA is a longtime basis for racer x and the Mars Volta and it's currently a basis for Marilyn Manson. Marilyn Manson call that comes up quite a bit.

20:04  
Yeah. Cuz you're Marilyn. Yeah. He's your favorite.

20:10  
man crush me.

20:13  
Yeah. So born 63 in LA, of Mexican descent is dad. My guess he was like a Mexican social activist. Oh, wow. In the time, and you know, so he's been around like politics and also at the time, as a kid, you know, he was influenced by jazz, like his dad play jazz a lot in the household. So because of jazz, and later on hip hop and progressive rock, you know, he developed his own style. He's an avid collector of bases and effects pedals. In fact, I think he actually has a website where he hosts and he, I think he just showcase he showcases a lot of his a lot of his gear. So he's like, a really, he's a good Yeah, he's a gearhead. I mean, like, this dude's got like racks upon racks and stuff. You know. He's also a cycling enthusiast, and he's currently recovering from head injuries that he sustained while bicycling despite wearing a helmet, which left him in a coma for nearly four weeks.

21:06  
What? Wow, yeah.

21:10  
Wow, that's crazy.

21:11  
And, uh, I mean, like, the shitty thing too, is like when he woke up out of a coma, like COVID was just beginning. Oh, sounds like he's like, but he's been in a rehab facility like ever since, like, mid January. And that's, that's crazy. And the crazy thing is, I mean, now that he's, I mean, he's, he's up in walking and doing all sorts of things, but his long term memory was affected. So, yeah, he's, he's, he's got quite a ways to go to remember a lot of the music they used to play. What? Yeah, crazy.

21:43  
Sad.

21:44  
But he's been doing good, you know, and that's, that's a good thing. Luckily, you know, he's though he's, he's still with us. And luckily, he was wearing a helmet. Yeah, like wearing a helmet and like, you know, right now that music is on pause, you know, I think he's gonna have some good amount of time to like really? rehab properly. So yeah, yeah,

22:01  
definitely. Um,

22:04  
so that's my first guy right there.

22:06  
Okay, you got another one. You could throw another one out there. Yeah.

22:11  
These next two, they they they share a lot of similarities. Uh, Omar Rodriguez Lopez born 1975. And by Amman, Porto Rico he's a guitarist at the driving and The Mars Volta. This dude's got an impressive discography over the last 16 years he's released 50 solo albums. Gee, yeah. In addition to other bands he's been involved in. Wow. I mean, gets I mean, I don't know. I can't even think of like one album that I can write by myself. That's insane. Yeah, 50 solo albums and between 2004 and 2020. He's known for having a non traditional guitar style influenced by salsa, progressive rock and jazz. He's also a filmmaker and producer. And interestingly enough, is he's not comfortable with with with the guitar. Like he still struggles with the concept of guitar. So he does his very best to like, play guitar, and not make it sound like it like it's one. And in and actually, originally, he started off as a bassist, and then he got into guitar because he realized he needed more strings.

23:17  
Okay, yeah, make sense? Yeah. And then which is crazy, because now they got like six string basses.

23:23  
Yeah, they've got all sorts of stuff now. And the next one to follow is is a Cedric Bixler Zavala. Born 1974 in Redwood City, California, also vocalist for at the drive in and The Mars Volta and he's also fronted his own bands anti mask and Savalas. He's known for his lyrical wordplay and high energy performances and he's a close friend of Texas Congressman and former 2020 presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke with whom he played in a punk band in caught FOSS in the mid 90s.

23:53  
That's crazy. Okay, yeah.

23:56  
And even though you know, they're they're born

24:00  
you know, it's funny cuz I'm looking at my list and I'm noticing a pattern there's a lot of California based musicians and bands, but you know, at the drive and they got their start in obasa. Same thing with The Mars Volta even though you know, some of the members are from California, some are from Puerto Rico, you know, they are they all came together in Texas and so you know, there's something about like, possible there because I mean, later on, I mentioned so stuff but yeah, like, I guess I don't know, there's like a desert rock scene or something. You know, that's like very specific to do the US. And so yeah, so those are my those are my three for now. And I'll get into some more later so

24:42  
All right, cool. Well, definitely let me know what your favorite songs from those guys are. Oh, yeah. Um, so like I said, previous episodes, we have a Spotify playlist to go along with our episodes. So if you want to check them out, go to rock heavy our pod Comm. You can find the links all that stuff on our website. to actually find the Spotify link to our actual show, and then you'll find the Spotify link to our playlists. So we'll add songs from the artists that we talked about every episode and so you'll be able to hear some Mars Volta and have to drive and stuff on Spotify for sure. Thanks to Frank's list. So he wants to go next.

25:23  
Okay, cool.

25:25  
I don't really have a list. And I don't have much to say, but I was just talking to Frank before the show, and I said that my first exposure to Latin music or Hispanic music, music and Spanish was okay,

25:41  
yeah. Ricky, Ricky Martin, right?

25:44  
Yeah. He got his start. Yeah.

25:47  
That's a good one that I you know, that's weird. I didn't see them on any list that I was looking at. Because actually, Martin, I didn't see Ricky Marnier, which is crazy when you brought it up. But

25:56  
yeah, because well, when I was a kid, they had a TV show on ABC. And that was like, I watched it all the time. And it was, I don't know, it was pretty great. But apparently, they're the band started in 1977. Teen which I had no idea about that had any members many members? Yeah. Right. And so that was my first exposure to music and Spanish and yeah, and I remember watching, you know, every Saturday,

26:28  
and it was pretty great. But yeah, that I mean,

26:31  
that is a good one because of the whole like, list that I saw on this that I made. Um, I didn't see them anywhere. I didn't see him anywhere. Yeah, Muslim. I still

26:41  
remember the opening theme song.

26:45  
Like they're in a shopping mall on the like escalators and they're saying there's Yeah, that's great. Well,

26:52  
yeah, I sing it to Frankie's like I sing.

26:54  
So yeah,

26:55  
yeah, that's funny.

26:57  
Oh, that's right. You did?

26:59  
I had to edit it. So I heard it.

27:03  
Um, I guess, I mean, you want to go? Well, mine is kinda, here's kind of what in depth.

27:10  
Oh, that's fine. Okay.

27:11  
So I got one. Oh, I actually have two on my list. But one of them is actually I was a big fan of these guys for a long time. And I when we came across this topic, and I was doing my research, I was like, no, yeah, they fit the bill. So the band I wanted to talk about was is a is nonpoint. They're a new metal slash old metal slash hard rock band from Fort Lauderdale, Lauderdale, Florida. They formed in 97. Around drummer Rob Rivera and vocalist, Leah Soriano. They're actually a Puerto Rican descent. And so it was my noodle. Yeah. So and actually, there's a couple of other artists too, that I found that were Puerto Rican descent. Robert Rivera, actually, the band kind of formed from him going between the states and Puerto Rico trying to get a band to form and he was actually a he was probably he was part of a one of the bigger parts of the scene in, in Puerto Rico in the metal community for a while, and then he decided to move back to the States. And it's just crazy because the people who he ended up working with ended up being, you know, having Puerto Rican lineage to actually the vocalist, le Soriano. He's a Dominican and Puerto Rican. And it's pretty crazy, because I remember going back to Well, first, I want to talk about how I got into this band. Um, for anyone who knows the band nonpoint probably the only song you could think of is what a day was what a day was big like, in I want to say what year was this? Maybe 2002 or something? Yeah, it was like, early 2000s. So this was probably 2000 2004 Yeah, it was 2004. Um, I don't know if you guys remember a band called skindred. Oh, yeah. So they were like reggae metal. And they were from Wales. I believe. They're still a thing though. Yeah, they're still a thing. Yeah, they they're still active. So when they first came out, I was like, oh, man, who are these guys? I like them. Actually. I'm still kind of any

29:15  
one of y'all in high school gave me a burned skindred is probably me.

29:20  
Cuz, yeah, it's probably my writing. So I was like, dude, hold on to Yeah, it was probably me. I do. Yeah, I used to draw like stuff on them. So skindred like, I'm actually still found that first album today actually have their first two albums and I'm still finding that first one. So anyways, so at the time, those guys were on lava records and nonpoint had just signed to lava records. I believe this was nonpoint third album if I'm correct, and they were having problems with their label that they were on before. So they ended up being labeled meets with skindred and when I went to go see skindred at the White Rabbit when they came through town nonpoint was actually on tour with them. And they played right before him. And I was like, Oh, I know who nonpoint is, this shouldn't be a bad show. And like I said, I only knew like, what a day and maybe like one other song. And so I'm there on the barricade. And it's this was back in the day to when we would take pictures with the little disposable cameras, and actually still have those pictures from that show. On storage. So anyway, so I'm there and nonpoint their third album recoil had just came out. And, of course, I didn't really know too much about them or that album that they had released. Um, so I'm there in the front. And I just remember them playing the cover of Phil Collins and air tonight.

30:49  
Yeah, that's right. That was it was in the Miami Vice. Yeah,

30:52  
it was Miami by soundtrack. Well, what's crazy is that that song came out on that soundtrack two years after the album came out. Oh, so I was in the front. And I remember just being fucking blown away by like, just how, like, it was very tribal and like, but it wasn't like cliche kind of tribal. Because I remember I remember on the new metal era, with El Nino being popular. A lot of bands were trying to do the tribal thing. And like, they were just trying to, I guess milk it or whatever. And there was only a couple of bands that are doing it like or not a couple I should say a handful of bands are doing it like

31:28  
legit not the word.

31:33  
Around the time, like you know, you might you mentioned tribal?

31:37  
Yeah, a lot of bands are trying to do the whole tribal thing. And they were, I don't know, busting out the dreads.

31:42  
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So So these guys were

31:48  
they were honest about is what I'm right. That's what I guess that's the word they were doing it honestly, like they weren't trying to do it. It was just part of their it was just in them like to do Gino to do for it to come out in the music. So especially to like when I listened to this album, while I was doing the research for this episode, actually went back and I listened to that album, because I still own it the original copy that I that I bought back in 2004. I listened to it all the way through this fuckin album, I forgot how much I loved that album. That album is still badass listening to it today. Um, it's just so like, honest and aggressive. And the grooves in it, it's like there because I think they're also considered groove metal too. And I like metal on every song on that album has a purpose. There's no filler songs on or filler tracks on that album. And it's cool because they had a purpose when they made it because they were so angry at their frustrations with the label they weren't working with previously, that a kind of that aggression came out on this album. And they had a label that was treating them better than their previous label and just that whole album is just fucking amazing. It sounds amazing. The lyricism is amazing. It's got a good balance between of their, of their like, eat like you can hear some of the like, Latin, Latin feels in it, but it doesn't. It doesn't like overtake like the music. Um, and then I think of their follow up album. After that it was, I think, to the pain, that one they actually had extra musicians play on the album with them. So they had extra percussionist, I think they had like a trumpet player to like, so it was more lat it had more Latin field and then their previous albums. But if any of you haven't heard recoil, and the only song you know from nonpoint is what a day I highly recommend to go listen to recoil, I believe recoil was on my top 10 albums on the very first episode that we did. Um, and then also to talking about the members, two of the members being from Puerto Rico, or being of Puerto Rican descent, um, they actually under early logos of the band, their logo included a tribal frog. And a tribal frog is actually called a coqui. coqui is actually a symbol of the aborigines people that came to Puerto Rico. And so like they those tribes will actually paint the frogs on the caves. And they actually had adapted or adopted it as the band logo. I don't know if they I don't think they use the no they do still use it. They don't use it as much as they did before. But they still you still see the the coqui frog here and there. actually didn't keep up with them after they lost their original members. Well to their original members left, one left in 2018, the other one left in 2011. And those guys were part of the original lineup from 97. And they actually like El Nino because I mentioned them earlier they actually do have some songs that are done completely in Spanish. And two of the ones that I know from the early albums actually. I'm going to have them on the Spotify playlist. One of them has already We'll, and the other one is robbia. And that one's on the recoil album, those those songs are pretty fucking awesome. But yeah, they just I thought they did a really good job of like, just incorporating latinfeels into the music without, without, you know, I just thought it was well balanced with the way they did it. Um, and yeah, I'm still a big fan of nonpoint I'm just a bigger fan of the original lineup, and then the early stuff that that group did together, but that was that was my first band. So yeah, Puerto Ricans Dominicans.

35:39  
That's that's what made up that band.

35:41  
Cool. Sweet. Also to like around render time. I remember that a pod was also big

35:47  
deal D was on my list. Yes, he's on. I don't want other guys to I don't know. Yeah, his name. I think it was probably the basis. I don't know his name. But yeah, PLD was on the list. And I didn't have anything to say about them. But they were Yeah, they

36:02  
were on my mentor. I just read that they were like Christian.

36:05  
Christian. Yeah, they were

36:06  
Yeah. Inspired by Sonny's mom passed away. I think it was leukemia, and he was inspired by her religious beliefs. Then that's how they formed their

36:18  
Christian metal band whatever. I actually have one of their first albums This is kind of stupid, but uh, I found it like at a I don't know if you guys remember like, I don't know if they still do but like Walgreens and like, like the stores like that. Like they would have like these end caps or not in caps like digital displays like at the register with like, CDs and cassettes. Yeah. Well, I had saw, I had saw pod album there. This was after satellite it came out. And basically what it was it was like a reissue of one on like their first albums like, both like might have been like two albums for satellite. And I heard it and it was pretty like Ron like cool. Like this was more when they were like more considered Christian. Then after satellite they kind of went off the radar radar for a while and then they went back into like being like, full on Christian I know they were they were big on the in the Christian rock scene for a while after after satellite to satellite kind of made a mainstream. And then it kind of it didn't really seem like they were, um, but I seen them in concert twice actually saw him once when satellite came out. And then I saw him once again, like four years ago. They were pretty good. So I've seen him like in two different areas of their career. And it was Yeah, they were pretty good. Were they were they ever considered

37:33  
Christian men? Oh,

37:34  
yeah, they were Yeah, they still are too. Yeah. Yeah, I think that I think that's why they're not as big now because I think the satellite was just that one album that that made them right like mainstream outside of the Christian rock community, but they've always been like Christian rock Krishna metal.

37:51  
Oh, coke. Okay. Yeah, I know, there's like bands out there that are like they have Christian beliefs, but they know but they don't like the label, like Christian metal or whatever. So it's like, you know, like, that's their belief system, but they don't talk about it lyrically.

38:06  
Well, you're doing my research. I didn't know that Jacoby from Papa Roach. That's he's like a big Christian too. He like does like, like he'll do like, I don't know what the word is, like, religious, like, songs like kill like, I don't know, it's called Franklin. But who like do a lot of that like out like in public events? Oh, God. And I didn't know that. But it doesn't show them how Roche music. But like,

38:30  
he was like, I remember I read that one time, like everybody associated or thought that like 12 stones was a Christian rock band. But then I saw like an interview like Paul McCoy was like that, like he was drinking a beer at a gig or something. And people were like, oh, like, you're the you're a Christian like rock. Like, why are you drinking and he's like, I never said that. Like, that was just kind of put on us. Like, he's like, you know that my beliefs have nothing to do with my music or what I'm doing. You know,

38:54  
it's kind of crazy. But, um, so I guess before we go on to the next thing, beer break real quick.

39:00  
I'm gonna I opened up a deck. Actually, I don't think

39:03  
that stuff.

39:05  
So this is a course it's from Mexico.

39:08  
This is it's in a retro cam trying to see what the ABV is. What ABV is, but you'll see it on the website because sometimes the cans don't have it labeled

39:18  
so like 5% i think i think they're,

39:21  
they're all around the same. Yeah, they're like in the five Yeah, cuz they got the lights like what like what, like a three point something. So that's probably like a five I think. All right. So we'll try this and then we'll go on to the next up, man. I was gonna say something else. Okay, so while we're doing this while we're pouring juice, there's a quick story I wanted to tell real quick talking about the whole Christian man thing. So I was in this band actually mentioned them before, I think, well, this is weird because this band I talked about is the band that I played with with tapper and 12 stones was supposed to play so it's kind of connected. So this this band, they were they are the ones that wanted to call themselves new metal and the singer I don't want to say his name. But he got into. He got into this mindset one day that he came to practice. He's like, Hey guys, I wrote a song called job. And I was like, because when I saw the title, I saw J. ob. And I was like, job is like, he's like, no job from the Bible. I was like, Okay, I was like, I mean, I, okay, cool, whatever. So the song was was cool. He's like, you know, what guys is like, I think we should be a Christian metal band. And I was like, oh, we're not Christian metal. Right. So just keep that in mind. Right? And he's like, Yeah, he's like, I know, he's like, but with this song, like, maybe we should start to go into that, because it'll be easy for us to like, like, kind of go into that scene and like, be like, because there's not a lot going. There's basically what he was saying is there's not a lot of competition in the Christian metal scene. So like, let's do that. Get our foot in, and then whatever. I'm like, dude, you're gonna shout out? Yeah. And I'm I don't know why. But for the longest time, he was trying to pull us into Christian being a Christian metal band when we weren't knowing that we weren't just because of one song. Yeah, and actually, that's one reason why I left the band. That's why I'm not in the band anymore. The band still exists under a different name actually did some digging around and they still exist. And it's funny because job one of their songs. I have no idea. Um, I don't think the singers in the band anymore, which is weird, because I thought he was only I thought he was going to start a band. But uh, yeah, the band still around. I'm like, What? What anyways? Yeah, that was my story. So, but let's try this. That got there real quick. Good stuff. Smells good. kind of smells. It doesn't smell as sweet as a but see if you go but it has a good smell to it. Oh.

41:40  
Yes, definitely has more flavor than that taco truck.

41:43  
And it's really light and crisp. Like you said.

41:49  
Um, I don't like it as much as a pacifical. But I do like it. Um, it has a little bit of bitterness too, but a good bitterness. I get. I'm gonna give it a 4.5 Yeah, I like it a lot. 4.5444 Kim? Britt.

42:11  
I'm gonna go for

42:14  
four. Okay. All right. Cool. All right, so I guess I got out the way and whoever wants to go with another band. Oh,

42:21  
sure. Well, I don't have

42:25  
I never have rock artists. But I do have artists. That's cool. You bring balance to the pocket?

42:31  
You and Britt bring bounce? Well, no, actually Frank does too. We all do. I'm the one that kind of I kind of stay in one.

42:38  
But I thought it would be cool because if you're listening to this you obviously I guess like music. If you're listening to this, you probably like rock music. But you I don't know how far the Hello music actually goes across the waters. I guess. Right? Like I don't know.

42:58  
Oh, you mean well, how old it is. Yeah, yeah.

43:02  
So we're gonna take a trip down dontoh music Okay, lane, kinda. Um, which, according to Wikipedia, the How to music also will tsikata the HANA is popular music style fusing Mexican, European and us influences with elements from Mexican Spanish vocal traditions and Czech and German dances, dance tunes, and rhythms, particularly polka or waltz. Which is cool because we're an Oktoberfest. Yeah. And it's traditionally played by small groups featuring accordion and guitar. So my artists, and these, the two top artists that I have on my list, they're also from San Antonio. Yay, I thought was awesome there to plug in the hometown people. My first one is going to be a median of IRA, who is from San Antonio. He lived on the south side, some more south east, I guess, maybe Southwest somewhere. And he was very successful in both Mexico and America. He started out in the David Lee Garcia de Los Angeles in 1989. And then he formed his own band in Emilio a group Rio. He signed with the Colombian records which resulted in recording over 15 albums to date. And Emilio was called the Garth Brooks up Donald. He also had a country album, which I didn't know. I do. I do remember English songs. So yeah, I guess I'd remember that he had a country album. Emilio passed away in 2016 of cardiovascular disease. But I mean, I man I miss like, being in that age where you go to like kin says or like when you would go with your parents to like weddings and then there's just like, full at the handle and boom, yeah, and like it just watching people dance and just like dancing and now

44:49  
sorry, I got on.

44:50  
I know. I know. I missed those old school cancers and weddings and stuff like that.

44:56  
The other day I was thinking about that I called the Mexican music that I used to listen to as a kid. Thinking is for old people. And now as an adult, I'm like,

45:06  
I want to hear it. I missed those days, like just going with my parents, like, at the time, when you're in that moment, you're young, you're like, man, like, we're here still, they're drinking. They're on their fifth setup with the third bottle of crown or whatever, and you want to go home, but like, now I'm thinking like, shit, like, Where are those get togethers at my age now, like, I don't want to be there when I was like, 10 I want to be there now.

45:31  
I'm gonna have my own

45:33  
home party, or we can just go across the street to my neighbors, because they're doing that shit all the time.

45:39  
Everyone always has that neighbor across the street. And we had one of those. And I know you're all mad

45:46  
at like, 130

45:50  
Yeah.

45:53  
I remember one time, I was going crazy, because literally, I think they were having some kind of, because, uh, they were having some kind of party and it was the neighbors and across the street, and then my legit next door neighbor. And my room was like, right next to their backyard. And I'm not even kidding. Half of the family stayed up to like five o'clock, six o'clock the next morning with music on and I'm like, Damn, yeah, so

46:17  
And for those of you don't know what Keene says, it's a Kingston yetta, which is a 15 year birthday party for a girl who's in it symbolizes her becoming a woman. So and it's like big, like wedding style, like people go all out for gifts.

46:35  
No, no.

46:36  
I also have, who's also from San Antonio is crispatus. So Chris beddoes was the lead guitar for Selena. He loves dinos I forgot. And he married Selena in 1992. And they were married from 90 to 95 when she was murdered, before that, and I didn't know he actually played in the Shelly lattice band. Oh, that was also from San Antonio from about 1918. I think he got he joined like 89 I think, oh, I don't

47:05  
know. Um,

47:07  
and from 1999 to 2009, he had the Chris bettas band. And from 2010 to present, he has a crisp bet his project. Yeah. So I thought that was cool. Like, it was cool. San Antonio artists there.

47:23  
Yeah, you know,

47:24  
and you're talking about a meal in Nevada, and there's a Mexican restaurant not too far from where we are. I'm gonna give a shout out to raffles, Mexican restaurant. Really, really good place. Mila Novato and he was he was a frequent patron over there. before he passed away. Yeah. Well, my dad saw him once was cool. I never saw him like over there. But yeah, my dad would see him frequently. Over there. Oh, that's pretty cool.

47:45  
I think I saw Chris Adam.

47:49  
Some Mexican restaurant on Bandera Road. I don't know which one I forget what it's called. But I saw him there one time. And I was like, dude, like he's actually a handsome guy. Like, I was like, okay, Chris.

48:03  
Chris, no kidding.

48:05  
Turn your mic down.

48:09  
Yeah, so those are my two top ones that I had that I had Sonny's on the wall. And I had Oh, Shakira was on my list, which I was really confused. And I was talking to Mario, because this

48:23  
is the whole thing about

48:24  
where we were confused that where you brought lightness was like Shakira is Lebanese. And like, I don't remember the other part, but she was born and raised in Colombia. So like, she, we were like, is she like Hispanic? Because she's Lebanese. And she's, gosh, I can't remember the other part. But none of it seems Hispanic to us. Yeah. And then we're like, but she sings in Spanish and technically,

48:46  
like, they consider her Latina. But some people don't.

48:50  
But so we were like, what the heck, but she was on with us. And then Dave Navarro.

48:53  
Yeah. Addiction and chili peppers. Oh,

48:57  
yeah. Wow, I didn't. I forgot about him. I forgot

49:01  
of Ink Master fame. Yeah. Yeah.

49:06  
Well, that's, that's interesting. A friend

49:09  
of mine saw him at the Denver Airport waiting in line for some Ben and Jerry's

49:17  
ice cream coming out that was named after him.

49:23  
by Google, no, probably.

49:24  
At the airport was always fun because you got to see like, different celebrities. And I remember Shawn Michaels came through one time I saw Carlos menza like, Oh, cool. Some of the girls from Danity Kane. Like it was just cool. Like seeing all those those people and their aliases. Check it out. Yeah.

49:45  
All right, Frank, you got something? Yeah.

49:49  
Probably

49:51  
an unexpected one, Slayer.

49:54  
Oh, I got him. I got him on my list, but I didn't write too much stuff down. But enough.

49:58  
Yeah. So I'm gonna I'm gonna name my next Three. So Slayer they were formed in 1981 in Huntington Park, California. They are part of the Big Four thrash bands. They, they've enjoyed some pretty good success throughout their near 40 year career despite controversies over religious commentary, some posted white supremacy, sympathies and graphic artwork, and they're one of the most influential bands and heavy music and Slayer because of dama Daya and he's Chilean born. Yeah, he's chilling and original drummer Dave Lombardo. He's Cuban born. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, he's he's Cuban born so that's that's their little Hispanic Heritage right there. The next one is a pretty fun punk band. I think manic Hispanic. No, yeah. America spanic. They're formed in Orange County, California, like 92. They're part of the Chicano punk movement whose music addresses Chicano lifestyles by parroting other well known punk songs. And the band's name is actually a play on Manik Hispanic, which is a brand of hair dye that's popular in the Yeah, Manic Panic. Manic Panic again, yeah. Okay, so Manic Panic. Yeah, it's a brand of hairdryer. It's popular. And you know, they semantic is manic Manic Panic. That's a little play on the whole thing. And a very obvious one Deftones Of course, Deftones. They were formed in Sacramento, California in 1988. they've enjoyed consistent success throughout their 30 years plus career and have a very devoted following. In California, the American Southwest and Latin America, Nelson have one of the most diverse influences and musical outputs and alternative metal. And actually today, they released their ninth album ohms to wide universal acclaim, actually, on my way to work this morning. I was listening and I was like, fucking just blown away by it. That's cool. I don't know what it is. It's like,

51:42  
you know, I was I was thinking okay, like,

51:45  
with every album, they just keep getting heavier and not like heavy in a traditional sense. But like if you listen to the steps guitar, like now he's playing on a nine string guitar. And he's making it difficult for like the budget Deftones fans who want to cover them. Playing guitars are not cheap.

52:04  
At a Stephen Carpenter seven string. Yeah, good. gave it to you. But yeah, remember?

52:08  
Yeah. And actually a Stephen carpenter. He's related to chuck Billy vocalist of testament who's also of Hispanic descent. So he's like spanic, and Native American descent.

52:18  
Yeah. Speaking of Hispanic and Native American have a rubber heel on my list, cuz of course I got to mention Metallica.

52:27  
I mentioned the Deftones. And Mary

52:30  
Roberts. He was born in Santa Monica, California, and he's actually a Mexican and Native American descent. He's been pretty big in the metal community. I mean, I know a lot of people know him from Metallica now, but he was in suicidal tendencies. He also played bass for in Black Label Society and for Ozzy, so, yeah, man, Robert has had a pretty diverse career in metal. Yeah. And Suicidal Tendencies is one of those bands too, that they blended like metal and funk and like, you know, they were one of those bands that just they they fused different styles together. And they didn't sound like anyone else. So yeah, I mean, that's and then to have like someone like him, representing like, that community like in a band like Metallica, like one of the biggest and it's crazy because I like to have the big four have you know, Hispanic members and you know, that are you know, that's pretty crazy because you were talking about Slayer and you know, Metallica,

53:30  
um, and also I think he's got a I don't know if they're, I don't know how active they are. Rubber three yo has a I think the rubber through heel three, a trio.

53:41  
And I think I think they're like a, like a jazz influenced.

53:44  
Sometimes I think you're a bigger Metallica fan than I am.

53:49  
I either forget stuff. Or like you say stuff. I didn't know. I'm like, What the fuck?

53:53  
I just read stuff and things

53:55  
retaining like I can read stuff and things too, but I don't remember the next day.

53:59  
Who else you got in your Spitfire list?

54:01  
Oh, my Spitfire list because

54:03  
I know we're just going like through really quick. Yeah, that's all I had on Robert trio.

54:08  
I was gonna mention Yeah, you know, Robert three. He was one of them. Joe Escalante, born 63. In the name sounds fornia. He's the basis for the vandals. Ah, yeah, that was like that name. Sounds familiar. Yeah. And in addition to being the basis for the vandals, he's also a television show writer. He's a radio show host. He's a film music director and also the he's a co founder of kung fu records as well. One of my favorites is blue head. Yeah, they're formed in 1989 in LA and they perform under pseudonyms and portray themselves as a band of drug lords who conceal their identities due to being Wanted by the FBI.

54:42  
I knew about the band, but I didn't know about that.

54:44  
Yeah, I know the band's name is Yeah,

54:46  
and their lyrics are focused on Satanism, anti christianity immigration, narcotics smuggling and politics and they they gain controversy for the artwork of their debut album, which features the decapitated head of a narcotics trafficker. It's actually pretty graphic. Holy crap. Are they still active? They're still active. Yeah. And they've switched like lineups like, like crazy. But they're still active. Yeah. And they're not consistent mean, they're consistent. But um you know, the interesting the good. The cool thing about these is that they're a mix of Mexican, Swedish and British. Wow. Like the band member. Yeah. But you know, when you're in boo head Yeah, you assume a Mexican identity and you pretend that you're a drug lord who's hiding from the FBI.

55:31  
Speaking of a mix like that, have Zach della Roach on my list. Rage Against the Machine. He's actually part Mexican, German and Irish. Oh, and I was like, What the heck, that's a pretty diverse, but then again, also to when I was doing my research, like, I know Texas is very, like Mexican oriented. Because we're I mean, we're neighbors, but we're very German oriented, which is very crazy. So we're like, fucking, it was crazy.

55:58  
And the Irish are everywhere.

55:59  
Yeah, that too. So yeah, it's a very, uh, I mean, it's not as like, crazy as like, state like New York or like city, specifically New York, but like Texas is pretty diverse diversity. Yeah, for sure.

56:15  
We've got like, towns that are, you know, checklist. avakian.

56:19  
Yeah.

56:21  
Yeah. All kinds of cool stuff.

56:23  
What else you got Frank? Oh, real quick. I guess I just want to can, I got Carlos Santana on here. And the reason why but Carlos Santana. He was born in Mexico, but I didn't know that. Santana was actually a pioneer of Latin rock. He was one of the first ones with him and his band are one of the first ones to fuse rock and roll and Latin American jazz together. So they were they kind of kicked off the whole Latin rock movement back in like 65. And he's still active. And I think if I'm correct, he actually helped bring up one of the other bands that I found on lists, which was lolani los lonely boys. So they were on my list and then looking at them to Los Lobos was on my list too. But I had them too. I didn't really have too much to say about him but Santana mostly because he was I mean, everyone else antenna. I mean, I was around when Woodstock you know the original Yeah. And original Woodstock. Yeah, so came around. So but yeah, Santana, he's a he's a pretty big. He was a big influence on a lot of the I guess a lot of the bands that we're going to talk about will talked about or they're on the lists out there of like, Spanish rock bands and stuff like that. But

57:39  
yeah, yeah. Also wasn't Kirk Hammett on one of his albums

57:43  
too. Yeah. Kirk Hammett was over his albums to a man. This was like 2006 or 2007. I think it might have been the album after supernatural. Oh, that was it, which was a good album.

57:55  
Yeah, that was that was good. But yeah.

58:00  
I had a and I just wanted to mention Gloria Stefan, like I think that's good fire. She has such a unique voice and like a unique like, she she was with the Miami Latin boys. And they're all they became later known as the Miami sound machine. Mm hmm. She's Cuban. Or, and this is another one because she's of Spanish descent. Her parents are from Spain. Oh, she was born in Cuba. Okay, and all that stuff. So we were like,

58:27  
Well, technically, yeah, she

58:29  
put man like

58:31  
some good dance music.

58:33  
She brought a lot of music into the mainstream, very, you know, in the 80s. Which in? That was kind of a big deal. Like, very widespread, right. It became very popular. Their music. I mean, it was top 40 stuff.

58:47  
Yeah, forgot about her. Yeah. I want to say I met her but I don't remember.

58:53  
Like when I was like when I was little like, because I remember we were talking about somebody. Some. I think Maria Jasmine or something was like on TV. And I was like I met her when I was a kid. Like I was like, I was like in the hospital and she was like visiting kids. I met her. I think I met Gloria Stefan to like Fiesta, Texas or something. I was in high school. No, no. I want to say I mean, my mom is probably listen, you should probably correct me, but I'm pretty sure it met her. Yeah.

59:22  
I was gonna quickly mention Jorge hedera. His name sounds familiar, the lead singer of the casualties, punk ban, until recently, I guess he stopped he's no longer with the band. He quit in 2017 with them for 27 years, so damn, damn, that's a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's from Ecuador. Oh,

59:44  
speaking of Ecuador. Also to re my you're gonna have stones our drummer. Wow, okay. Yeah, he didn't know he was Yeah, he's Ecuadorian and Cuban. Cool.

59:55  
With that?

59:57  
Yeah. So what do I say so far?

1:00:00  
So fly Yeah, I don't know. So fly was a spin off of

1:00:04  
civil duty. Yeah, I mean I knew they were connected but I didn't know

1:00:08  
yeah so when max left maksakova left he joined so fly or he formed so fly he

1:00:13  
was the vocalist for he's a vocalist. Yeah.

1:00:15  
Yeah. And you know so flight just like several other very heavily Brazilian

1:00:24  
you know, their their members are Brazilian pretty much. But they,

1:00:30  
but they their songs are sung in Spanish though, right? Their song? Well, because I mean, I'm not too far I've listened to them or their stuff, but not enough to pay attention to know if it's Spanish or Portuguese.

1:00:39  
Well, if it's Portuguese, it's it's fairly it's very similar sounding due to Spanish.

1:00:45  
Yeah, you know, I'm not a whole lot. I've never

1:00:47  
really paid attention.

1:00:48  
Yeah, I mean, other than like, the stuff that was like on the radio,

1:00:51  
I think I saw so fly on my birthday. I don't even know if you were there. Like 2002 2003 No, no. 2000 2003 2004 at sunset station. So fly came my birthday.

1:01:05  
Yeah, it was that the one with morbid

1:01:07  
Morbid Angel. Yeah,

1:01:09  
yeah, we're both there.

1:01:10  
Okay, so yeah, we saw so far. Back in the day. Were bidding Jewish shit. Okay. And I don't remember. Yeah, I mean, my memories

1:01:18  
bad to begin. I mean, I thought the show was good. I remember.

1:01:22  
I remember his guitar is Yeah, of course.

1:01:27  
Yeah, just remember that.

1:01:28  
I just remember. Yeah, I mean, of course this was you know, it's funny because like today if we were to go to that show, it would be a probably like super mellow show because everyone's gonna be like busy on their phones trying to get stuff but that was probably one of the most violent brutal

1:01:42  
Yeah, I was part of some Yeah, I remember it's

1:01:45  
funny cuz I was thinking about like, when I was talking about earlier like going to the Gita, the weddings with your parents, but like, we didn't have these kinds of cell phones. So you like literally had to sit there and watch them or put some chairs together and go to sleep

1:01:57  
play with Yeah,

1:01:59  
play with the decorations.

1:02:04  
Um, so bearbrick real quick. I opened up a Deus Ex Mexican paleo. I've never had this before. That doesn't smell as sweet as it tastes. Um, I To me it taste very sweet and it has a bit of bitterness that it's pretty like the

1:02:23  
originals of

1:02:24  
psyches. I know it advertises having a bit of a spice.

1:02:27  
I mean, I like it does have a I to me, I guess it's the sweetness it is but it might be that spice that's in there. I don't know what it is. But I mean, I like it. I Oh, it's made with citrus hops and a hint of some spices as a hint of heat. But I to me, I just tasted Yeah, it's the sweetness to me 5.5

1:02:46  
ABV. We did pick up a beer AGV like we literally picked it up and look at it and then he read it and I was like that put that down.

1:02:54  
It had ghosts. Oh, hey, ghost pepper. Get it? Yeah, there's a bottle. So I know we've talked about this in previous episodes, but these Mexican lockers that are in the white bottles, those are going to taste more skunky than the ones in the can. Yeah, I know what clear bottles I mean, I don't know why I said white

1:03:13  
clear bottles just Becky's in the can is better than those that he's in the bottle. draft is better than all

1:03:21  
and I agree. What do you read this one? I write this on a 4.5 I like this a lot. I've never had this on before and

1:03:28  
I'm gonna go 4.2 4.2 I do like it. It's good to go good. Alright, so Kim is gonna she's cleansing her palate.

1:03:36  
I've never had it before. I was chewing on the line right? Oh yeah, it's all it says line.

1:03:41  
It smells citrusy and a bit spicy. But I don't taste a spicy and so they're talking about but I do sweetness. It's sweet.

1:03:53  
I like yeah, the cans really cool. It's cool. It's got like a astec.

1:04:00  
Chief like

1:04:03  
he looks important. Well, you guys will see all these cans and ratings on our Instagram 3.8 Okay, that's good. Good, good. Good. All right, so who wants to eat Frankie got some more stuff on your list?

1:04:15  
Yeah, I wanna I want to throw in some some locals also.

1:04:18  
Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. Garona coma, which we played with, yeah, played with at the downtown library. This is

1:04:29  
where some of the Salina movie was filmed.

1:04:33  
Go in a coma performed in 2004. Here in San Antonio, Texas. They gained wide acclaim by being signed to john jets as a Blackheart records. They've done national international tours with Tegan and Sara social distortion and Morrissey and they're a staple of women's empowerment, movement in music. And another band and under pretty well known band is up and out. The protests are normally with 2006 here in town. They also do have an National international success including a headlining tour of Spain in 2019. And they also have I don't know if it's still available or not, or if it's still in production. They have a beer with Frito. brewing.

1:05:10  
Yeah, I was looking for it. I haven't haven't found it. But I don't know if it was like a limited thing or not. But I've been keeping my eyes out. Eyes open for it. Yeah,

1:05:19  
yeah. And actually, I think they're, they're, they're sideband. Let's go ahead. I was I think they've been playing some shows at the Aqua duck.

1:05:26  
Oh,

1:05:29  
yeah, I guess because, you know, it's probably like the perfect venues.

1:05:32  
It's like, yeah, it's open. Yeah.

1:05:34  
It's open door. Yeah,

1:05:36  
they have their picnic tables set up. So it really does par and you can sit with your, your people like no more than 10 people, I think, in your group and all that stuff. Okay. Yeah, sure.

1:05:47  
Why

1:05:48  
don't we? Hey, we really should Oh,

1:05:51  
we need to go to that non alcoholic. Oh, no.

1:05:56  
That's right. That's right. We want to go

1:05:57  
to the altstadt Brewery because they're open again, we're in Fredericksburg. So what are we doing?

1:06:03  
I know, right? Why are we sitting here?

1:06:07  
And also 10 o'clock, so maybe we'll cross paths with them? Because we want to start playing shows again. Yeah, we do. We're gonna house the house. Or like, it's easier to practice now in a house because I feel like especially living on third floor like it's very hard, even limited amount of room and space and just so feel free. Yeah, we do. Yeah,

1:06:28  
no, can I do I know?

1:06:30  
Because you're in the bathroom? Oh, yeah, you're

1:06:32  
gonna do that when we get into the house. And he has this little room setup that we are gonna work on.

1:06:38  
Yeah, cuz I do want to start playing. We, I want to I really want to play again,

1:06:43  
I'm gonna be your number one fan.

1:06:44  
Yeah. We're not gonna waste your time and we're not gonna play in the sandwich

1:06:52  
store at your store, they're playing a match your store might be playing your first few

1:06:59  
songs all the time for the rest

1:07:00  
of your life. True.

1:07:04  
Okay, we're going straight to hell.

1:07:08  
I mean, I'm, I'm fine.

1:07:13  
Yeah, you know, it's funny, cuz I know, this is like off topic. Because I was thinking about it. While we were doing this might as well talk about it. So when I was talking about when I was doing the research on nonpoint, and I was talking about how the German made the band, and he was going back and forth between here in Puerto Rico. And basically, he was like, I don't care where I go, as long as I find the people that I need to see it the way I see it, and who are gonna, you know, now he's a successful musician. You know what I mean? And I kind of feel like I gave up somewhere along the way, where I just got so frustrated with, like, I had Frank the whole time. But we never found like a vocalist that was committed. We never found a drummer that was committed. We did, but unfortunately, something happened to him. And, and I feel like, I mean, we were at it for a long time. Me and Frank were together for a long time doing the music thing. And I'm like, man, maybe I gave up too easy or whatever. But I was like, you know, he just kept going until he found the people that he wanted. But some people get lucky. And you know, they find those people and like five years we were at it. Yeah, I know. Then please, I don't want no

1:08:15  
drums and it's not going anywhere.

1:08:16  
Yeah, no plan on it's just a it's just it was it was hard to get rid of me. It's just it was hard. When me and Frank were first starting. And I was just thinking back about about those days where I'm like, man, like it was like we we we tried we did and then like I just I got so tired. You know, trying to putting up with people's bullshit. Yeah, like people trying to be Christian metal when they're not trying to be new metal when it's 2012. People being shady playing

1:08:44  
music that you're playing with another band.

1:08:46  
Oh, yeah, that too. Yeah. So

1:08:48  
but he but even. Even even without that. It was it was it was it was also easy, because none of us had jobs. That

1:08:55  
is true. And it's funny because as easy as it was, it was so hard, dude. Like, yeah, and I remember putting this was back before social media. I think I mentioned this in previous episodes. literally putting ads in the paper. Like, we're like, oh, make sure you don't cross like certain amount of characters and you can have the ad for free. No. Because like yeah, that's how it was. And I remember Frank remembers I would put in like, okay, we only have enough characters to put this These aren't influences Frank, give me two bands. I got two bands. This is our fuckin and we we actually tried to be Wow. But it was like I remember one time. I mean, we could say this. We try it out this to home. I remember. One of them. This girl came and she's like, Oh, yeah, watch her for the band. So she's singing. And as he goes, I'm gonna take a smoke break real quick. So she goes to the front of the house and she's taking a smoke break and then we find out she's also pregnant. And I was like, What? So obviously she then ended up in the man and then we had another and then we had another guy. I don't think Frank was there. I think some some reason. Frank might have been there. I know we were missing a member I was talking to the guy on the front of my house on my porch and you know, trying to see where he was at because I'm trying to find people who are in it for the long run, right? And he's like, Yeah, he's like, um, I do Moblin on the side like, that's what I really want to do, mom. Yeah, like, What? Why don't you try it out for the band? Like, I don't understand, like I'm looking for Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I'm just talking about the early days. I'm talking about 2002. Back when we played with girl in a coma, nothing more. Back in the day, like when we

1:10:31  
were we played without vocalist. I remember we had a show.

1:10:34  
I remember we packed

1:10:36  
the first show that the first show that we played at the library, we had a vocalist and then the second time we played the following year, we played without a vocal I remember that. Like we that's, I mean, fuck we played like, we were just like, Look, we need a fucking vocalist. But, I mean, it all depends where you're at to like, you know, why didn't you sing Mario? I at the time at a good you know, I? I had thought about it. But I was never like, I think if I would have practiced and tried then I probably would have built some kind of skill, but I didn't. I know Frank tried for a while to I think we both kind of like dabbled in it. But we didn't like kid it hard. And I think I was just more concentrating on playing guitar. But I don't know. I was just thinking about it. When we were doing when I was doing the research for this just yeah,

1:11:18  
you know, but we're gonna do it.

1:11:20  
Alright, so guys following anyone

1:11:26  
playing gigs again?

1:11:27  
Yeah, I want to play it again. Yeah, so already for what you got,

1:11:30  
I guess. I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna finish off my list. I guess. Yeah. Owl Jorgensen. Cute.

1:11:36  
Cuban born.

1:11:38  
I got them on here too. But as a hangover from

1:11:41  
Yeah.

1:11:46  
Tell me the origin of it. Oh, let me find his name. Yeah, because I'm the one that found his name.

1:11:51  
His name that he uses makes it seem as though he's like,

1:11:54  
yeah, scan. Do you have his real name on there?

1:11:56  
No, I don't. Okay, but it's like Alejandro or something.

1:12:01  
Okay, so guys, I'm gonna Okay, so his real name. He's American. Cuban Cuban American.

1:12:08  
Wait a minute. That's not his name. Neither. What the

1:12:11  
hell? How many names does he have?

1:12:14  
Oh, okay. This is okay. Now I found it. So he was born. This was how he was born.

1:12:20  
This is how he was born.

1:12:22  
This is grandma's birthday. Alejandro Ramirez. cosas.

1:12:27  
Now that's that's has been Yeah,

1:12:29  
yes. Yeah. But he goes by Elaine. David Jorgensen. Oh, I don't know. Lane. Lane.

1:12:36  
It could be a it could be a marketing thing. Yeah, maybe that's what he goes by.

1:12:41  
And I guess he's trying to go European on it. Maybe. But

1:12:44  
just like the accent. Yeah. So So yeah, I've got him I've got also Tony Campos basis for static x as well as as well as ministry for your factories. That's right. He's got a degree in computer science. Oh shit. Yeah. I never would have thought also to Micah rata basis of MX px. And this one's actually a I don't know, I'm still a little bitter about this one. Samira and I were in a band some years back, and we were on tour and we played a show in Bremerton and turns out that venue we played I was actually owned by Mike Herrera. That night that we played we, you know, like every other show, our audience was like every other band goes on the bill. And turns out the next day there were that venue was hosting a like a punk festival proper punk festival. But there was disagreements about the tour itinerary and we just did not play that. So that could have been a cool thing. We actually could have had a connect with NXP x right there.

1:13:46  
Somebody probably would have screwed it up but

1:13:48  
not us.

1:13:52  
I'm personally I'm fond of Cuban music. Next one is the Buena Vista social club. They're a Cuban ensemble that performs a song Kawano, Bolero, war, hero, and, and so on. There's music genres that are otherwise recognized as World Music. Let's pretty sure narrows is a Chilean new wave and broken espanol band with very strong social and political legacy. And lastly, I've got soda soda stereo. So that's Dario. Argentinian New Wave slash ruggedness, manual ban and also considered one of the pioneering Latin rock bands.

1:14:24  
Hmm. When you say that, I don't know why the two bands that popped into my head cuz my mom listened to him like for a while back in the day is manaan Yeah, why not? Mm hmm. Yeah. So just those two were like, Spanish rocker. Yeah. But uh, yeah, I those two, like popped up on here too. And I kind of forgot about them. Mm hmm. Oh, somebody mentioned last episode. 311.

1:14:49  
Yeah, yeah. One of the one of the vocals.

1:14:54  
That's right. Mm hmm. Um, I don't have anything else on my list. If anyone else has anything else No, no, no, no.

1:15:02  
Okay, so there's gonna be a hangover though.

1:15:05  
For sure. Oh, probably definitely. There's always a hangover when you drink a beer. Not actually it's funny i doing this show like I've actually never had one which is guess

1:15:16  
last Saturday. I was like, I don't even drink a lot. Oh Kim. I was like,

1:15:22  
I'm a Fear Factory. Also, some of their members are factory Mexican descent. A Dino Casa is Dino Casa isn't their drummer Raymond Retta. Okay,

1:15:31  
man. Yeah, that's crazy, because a lot

1:15:32  
of these guys weren't on the list on this. But yeah, and the last one I can think of off the top of my list is Randy Castillo drummer for Ozzy Ozzy. Yeah, for a time.

1:15:44  
Well, guys, I guess that wraps us wraps up this episode. If we have anything for hangover, we'll mention it on episode 16. That's going to be our Oktoberfest Fest, part two, I still don't know what we're talking about. As far as music wise, I have a couple of things to say about music for Next Episode, but not not as detailed as we didn't on part one. Definitely going to be drinking while Oktoberfest beers. So we have seven days to think about it. So off the mics. We have three more beers to try, which I'll post on Instagram. post those ratings to you'll see the ratings and the pictures of the beers that we drink tonight. I think we have a Bohemia Pilsner. That's from Mexico. I've never heard that before. We have a some type of Corona. I don't know if it's a virus.

1:16:37  
The virus

1:16:39  
and your classic dos aqis. But we're gonna try that out and read them and then we'll we'll see which one rated the highest highest out of all the Mexican Mexican lager definitely

1:16:48  
wasn't the taco truck.

1:16:50  
No. Oh, definitely. Yeah, of course. And that was in California.

1:16:53  
We should So yeah, I should have shared the one that I had earlier was

1:16:57  
I know I don't know if I shared that one with us before. I haven't. I mean,

1:17:01  
I i've drink. You might have shared it on our socials and stuff. Oh, but

1:17:05  
that is added together.

1:17:06  
But they always have it so I'll pick up another one. Okay, so we'll have

1:17:09  
that one and that'll be a hangover beer. But yeah, so like I said, for all the artists that we mentioned, I know Frank's gonna have a list of favorite songs and probably Britain Kim will throw some at me. I already have a playlist started. You can find it on Spotify. You can listen to our episodes everywhere you're listening podcast, just go to rock happy hour pod.com. So Facebook, Twitter, Instagram links and then I guess until next time, we'll see you next week. Oh, and sort of Cheers. I'm gonna say Salute. Salute. Salute.

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